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Saturday, January 27, 2007

Nuggets Fall to Jazz Full Team Press 116-111

In the western frontier, you had to be tough to survive and prosper and in the Western Conference of the NBA the same rule applies. The Utah Jazz played smart and tough and held off the Nuggets in Utah, 116-111. It was a playoff quality game as both teams shot over 50% and the Jazz defended their home turf tooth and nail. The Jazz play rough defense and are not afraid to get personal fouls if that will help them win. The Nuggets had what was for them a very unusual high foul count at 31, although no Nugget had more than 4 fouls except Nene, who fouled out with 31 seconds to go.

The Nuggets three all-stars all played well enough to beat the Jazz, but there were two main missing ingredients. The main missing ingredient was J.R. Smith, who in 20 minutes took only one 3-point shot and made it. The Nuggets have been living off of Smith's magic 3-point shot and his breakaways during the 5-game win streak that is now over, and the huge reduction in J.R.'s scoring was a loss too big to handle easily. The other missing ingredient was Nene, who was looking like a major new Nuggets weapon in recent games, but was a non-factor on tonight's scoreboard in 22 minutes.

So the Nuggets tried to run everything through A.I., Melo, Camby, and Blake, but the rest of the Nuggets would not or could not contribute very much at all. It was as if the Nuggets gang rode into town, but only the three leaders of the gang were shooting it out with the Jazz, while the rest of the gang was hanging out in the saloon. This is exactly what happened during the 7 out of 8 losing streak during the suspensions: the forwards had trouble even getting layups and rebounds, and Iverson, Boykins, and Camby could not possibly win the games on their own.

George Karl and the rest of the coaches have to be very careful about falling into a trap with this roster. This loss proves that you can not expect to automatically win simply by allowing A.I., Melo, Camby, and Blake to dominate the minutes and the ball to the point where Nene, Evans, Kleiza, and Diawara do alot of standing around, with an occassional rebound or two. There are 3 major all-stars on this team, but you absolutely must get more from the others than you got tonight if you are going to be successful from here on out. George Karl has to realize fast that he has to give enough minutes and enough plays to Nene, Evans, Kleiza, and Diawara.

And I don't even want to think about how much trouble the Nuggets might be in if J.R. Smith does not play at least 24 minutes a game, or if he does not take at least 10 shots a game.

I know that this new roster is a learning process in progress, so what I am saying is that I hope and expect that the Nuggets coaches will learn this lesson from this loss: Do not rely on the starters to do almost everything! The drama that the outside "experts" thought there would be between Iverson and Melo is a no-show, but the Nuggets now need to avoid the trap that no one predicted.

All the Western Conference powerhouse teams get more contributions from their benches virtually every game than the Nuggets got from their bench tonight. The Jazz tonight had three backups in double digits. In just 15 minutes, SG Gordan Giricek had 13 points on 5/8 shooting, including 3/6 from 3-point land. G-F Matt Harpring played 22 minutes and was 3/4 and 5/8 from the line for 11 points. G-F Ronnie Brewer played for just 16 minutes, but had 12 points on 5/6 shooting. And to add insult to injury, Paul Millsap, who backs up Boozer at PF, had 2 key 4th quarter blocks. That, friends, is very well coached efficent teamwork, and this type of team is going to beat a team depending only on three all-stars on a regular basis.

You need more than all-star heroics as a foundation to winning in basketball. Tonight, the Jazz bench outscored the Nuggets bench 46-11! Ouch.

And whether or not the coaches are aware of the problem, it is time for Melo, A.I., and Blake to make sure that J.R., Nene, Evans, Kleiza, and Diawara get more than one or two shots a game. It is time for Melo to prove once again that he is the ultimate team player: he needs to help the coaches balance things out more and make sure the team does not turn into two teams in one, the stars and the scrubs.

Reggie Evans played just 15 minutes and was 2/3 for 4 points, and he had 5 rebounds and a steal. Najera played for 17 minutes and was 1/1, and 1/1 from the line, for 3 points, and he had 2 rebounds and a steal. Nene played 22 minutes and was 1/5 and 2/2 from the line for 4 points, and he added 4 rebounds.

Steve Blake played for 28 minutes and was 2/5 and 1/4 on 3's for 5 points, and he had 6 assists, a big 5 steals, and 2 rebounds. Blake badly missed the 3-point shot attempt to send the game into overtime with 12 seconds to play. Smith was in, he is the main three-point specialist on the Nuggets, and there was plenty of time to get the ball to him, so I can not figure out why Blake got the shot. Karl should have specified that Smith take the shot. Smith earned it.

J.R. Smith played just 20 minutes and he was 1/1 (a 3-pointer) and 1/1 from the line for 4 points, and he had 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Marcus Camby was 7/11 and 7/7 from the line for 21 points, and the best rebounder and blocker in the NBA added 10 rebounds and 3 blocks.

A.I. was 10/21, 1/1 on 3's, and 12/15 from the line for 33 points. He also had 6 assists, 3 rebounds, and a steal.

Melo was 14/28, 1/4 on 3's, and 8/13 from the line for 37 points. He added 6 rebounds and 2 assists. Normally almost perfect from the line, this game could easily have been a win if Melo had hit 2 or 3 more free throws. But that is just another reminder that you can not expect to automatically win when you rely on just 3 or 4 players, no matter how good they are, to do almost everything.

The next game is tomorrow night, Saturday, Jan. 27 in Denver against the New Jersey Nets. The game will tip a few minutes after 7 pm mountain time.

Wednesday, January 24, 2007

Nuggets Machine Too Much for Allen & Sonics 117-112

The Nuggets played a balanced and well coached game, keeping their turnovers in check and starting to develop favored scoring plays and defensive patterns for the starters and primary players off the bench. On defense, the Nuggets committed just 17 personal fouls, though obviously they are still far away from having the defensive skills that teams like the Spurs and Rockets have.

George Karl sharply limited player rotations and gave just 7 players most of the minutes, a luxury that he will not be able to afford indefinitely due to the inevitable wear and tear on players of a long season. His objective was most likely to get the starters as much playing time together as soon as possible, to get everyone on the same page as soon as possible.

For now, Nene Hilario's knee inflammation remains dormant, so he was one of the seven who got almost all of the minutes. His playing time rose to a substantial 25 minutes in this game. On the other hand, Najera could not play due to a left quad contusion.

The Sonics also played very good team basketball, shooting .517 and getting 6 out of 20 threes. And they also had 3 players with outstanding nights, led by the great SG Ray Allen, who was 16/31, 6/17 on threes, and 6/8 from the line for 44 points. PF Chris Wilcox was 11/15 and 3/3 from the line for 25 points, and center Nick Collison had 18 points on 9/13 shooting. Allen and the Sonics, who had 19 fast break points, played uptempo and well executed basketball, and moved the ball around very well. Their crowd saw a genuinely well played and entertaining game.

Led by Wilcox and Allen, Seattle started off very fast, and lead 20-8 halfway through the first. A quick pair of scores by Iverson and a quick pair of threes by J.R. Smith, who has been uncannily hitting them on back to back or almost back to back possessions, in pairs or in triples, made it close. It remained close the entire rest of the game. The Sonics led it 28-25 after one and 60-53 at the halftime.

The Nuggets came out of the break the sharper of the two squads, and quickly tied it up. Melo and Nene lead a quick 2 minute 10-0 run later on in the third, giving the Nuggets a 77-70 lead. Late in the third, J.R. Smith made another pair of back to back threes in 35 seconds, and now Denver had a small lead: 83-78.

The fourth quarter was a deluxe basketball treat where both teams poured out their best. Allen and J.R. traded long balls at the very beginning of the quarter. Allen then hit three straight shots and added a free throw on another possession, versus one Iverson jumper and two A.I. free throws for the Nuggets, and the score at that point was 92-89 Nuggets with 8:37 to play. Smith sunk his 6th 3-pointer of the night with 7:11 left to make it 97-91 Nuggets.

But Seattle was still very much alive and kicking. They hit four straight shots: Ridnour, Collison, and Allen hit jumpers, and Wilcox had a monster reverse dunk. All of a sudden it was 99 each, and J.R. magic can only work so many times, so the Nuggets were still in trouble, especially since Allen was (and is frequently) virtually unstoppable by a Nuggets type defense. Nene and Collison traded dunks. Allen broke the 101-101 tie with a 27-foot 3-pointer with 3:45 left. Then Melo was fouled going to the hoop, and he hit both throws. Wilcox stuffed a Gelabale miss for the Sonics, and it was 106-103 Sonics.

Then Steve Blake, who had come in for J.R., hit a very clutch 3 to tie it again, at 106. Nene was fouled and made both throws, and then Blake did his best impression of J.R. by hitting another 3, for 111-106 Nuggets. Blake's shots were 1:11 apart, and separated by Nene getting fouled, so technically they were not quite as spectacular as either of the two J.R. back to back 3-pointers. All told, the Nuggets were 10/22 from beyond the 3 point arc.

Things have changed. If both Blake and J.R. can keep their 3-point accuracy close to what it has been lately, the Nuggets can compete with the many 3-point shooters found on the other top teams in the West.

Anthony blocked Allen's driving layup and scored his own lay-in off the break to put Denver ahead 113-106 with 1:12 left. In that last 72 seconds, Allen was 2/4 on 3-point hail marys, but Iverson and Melo hit 4 of 6 free throws to seal the win.

The Sonics, especially Allen and Wilcox, left it all on the court, and played as if it was their last game, falling just short to the Nuggets carefully built machine. It was an outstanding game of basketball on an otherwise run of the mill mid-winter night. The Nuggets no doubt left Seattle needing both of the two nights off they now get.

Nene was 5/7 and 7/9 from the line for 17 points, and he had 7 rebounds. Reggie Evans was 2/3 and 1/4 from the line for 5 points, and he had 7 rebounds, 2 assists, and a steal.

Marcus Camby was 4/8 and 2/2 from the line for 10 points. Camby is leading the NBA in rebounding and blocking. Tonight he had alot of help from Melo, Nene, and Evans on the boards, so he had 8 rebounds and a massive 5 blocks. He also had 4 assists and a steal.

Steve Blake played 28 minutes and was 2/6 and 2/4 on threes, for 6 points, and he had 2 assists and 2 rebounds.

Iverson surpassed 20,000 points for his career, becoming only the 30th NBA player ever to score this much. A.I. played virtually the whole game as usual, and he was 7/19, 2/5 on 3's, and 5/6 from the line for 21 points, and he also had 10 assists, 3 rebounds, and a steal.

J.R. Smith played for 27 minutes and was 7/15 overall and 6/10 on 3's for 20 points. He also had 3 rebounds and an assist.

Anthony played almost the whole game and was 12/26, 0/3 on 3's, and 10/11 from the line for 34 points. A reliable 3-point shot from Melo remains much more a dream than a reality at the moment. Melo also had a big 9 rebounds, a huge 4 steals, and 3 assists.

The next game will be against the team that is leading the Nuggets by 4 1/2 games in the Northwest Division, the Utah Jazz. The game is in Salt Lake City on Friday night Jan. 26 at 7 pm mountain time.

Tuesday, January 23, 2007

Melo Joins AI, JR, MC & Company: Nuggets 115 Grizzlies 98

Steve Kerr: "The gap between the top two teams – Dallas and Phoenix – and the rest of the NBA is widening."

Tremaine: "But, the gap between the Nuggets and the Mavs and Suns is narrowing to very little or nothing."

Was that static electricity in the air on a cold winter night or was that Nuggets basketball electricity? That was a stupid question. The home crowd could feel and hear an electric buzz in the air as the new, true Nuggets roster took the court. The Nuggets, pumped up with a huge amount of adrenalin and sheer enthusiasm for their reunited team, for the fans, and for the game, threw up everything but the kitchen sink against the Grizzlies in the first quarter alone. The Nuggets had 6 steals and 38 points in the quarter. They were so pumped that, were it not for the limited amount of adrenalin available to a human, they would have won this game by at least 40 points.

The Grizzlies, who have been able to win just two games on the road, one of them against the Nuggets back on November 28, ran into the basketball version of a pack of wolves whose prey has gone into hiding and is now so hungry that it is going after anything that moves.

Melo wasted no time. He had the first Nuggets bucket with an alley oop layup, and had 6 of the first 14 points. Then he mostly watched as A.I. and Camby went to work at the top of their games. A.I. scored 11 points in the quarter and Camby had 6 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 steals in the quarter. J.R. came in for Melo late in the 1st quarter onslaught, with about 5 minutes to play in it, and hit on everything he threw up: 3 threes and a finger role, and he also had a steal in those 5 minutes. The Nuggets had exploded for a twenty point lead after one quarter: 38-18.

In the second quarter the laws of physics said that the energy level had to come down and it did. The Grizzlies righted their ship and took advantage of a few Nuggets turnovers and a heap of Nuggets misses, such as J.R. missing 5 straight shots, 4 of them 3-pointers. I'm sure Karl told J.R. to at least try to mix up his shooting a little during the timeout. The score was 56-47 when Steve Blake sunk a three at the buzzer, for a 59-47 Nuggets lead at the intermission.

Early in the third quarter, the still over-revved Nuggets had 5 turnovers, 3 of them by Iverson, and the Grizzlies reduced the lead to 5 points at 68-63 half way through the 3rd. Now it was just a matter of finding a player or two who could bring the crowd to its feet again by converting some adrenalin into some made shots instead of into turnovers and poor shot selections, so that the Grizzlies would not be "hanging around" anymore.

The Grizzlies were knocked out of the game in the second half of the 3rd quarter mostly by Camby, with his blocks, rebounds, and good shot selection, and by J.R. Smith, on his mission to match or beat any 3-point ace the Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, or Suns might have. Smith went on his second tear of the night, this time getting 8 points in 48 seconds: a finger roll, a jumper with a made foul shot, and a 3-pointer. After Smith did his damage it was 86-68 with a minute left in the 3rd.

Memphis pulled to within 10 early in the 4th, only to fall victim to basketball excitement so extreme that it almost seems like it should be illegal. The Nugget's fans had been waiting for the Melo-A.I. duo for weeks, and now it was a reality. It was 98-80 with 7 1/2 to play when, finally, there was a play dramatic enough to make every television sports report. Iverson lobbed to Melo for the one handed jam. This was followed by a bad pass by Mike Miller of the Grizzlies, and a Blake to Nene alley oop. Then Nene stole the ball from Warrick, and there was another Iverson to Anthony alley oop dunk.

Now the score was 107-82 with 5:43 to go and fans were now divided into three groups. Most of the fans at the Pepsi Center were in sheer joy that they had witnessed the first Melo-A.I. game and that it was everything that had been anticipated and hoped for, including highlight reel plays that many of the youngest fans get a special thrill out of. After all, sports are for kids, too. As Iverson said: "That's what it's all about. It's about the kids, and about the fans that love the game and the excitement of the greatest game in the world. I'm enjoying myself. I know it's my 11th season, but this is a fresh start for me, and it feels like my first. I am having a great time and I love my situation here."

Other Nuggets fans were already looking ahead to playing squads like the Suns, the Lakers, and the Mavs, now that the Nuggets can no doubt compete. Still other worry warts, such as myself, were starting to wonder how long Karl would leave the starters in the game now that it was garbage time. To his credit, he yanked the starters in a timely fashion, with about 4 minutes to play. Way to go Karl.

Reggie Evans started at PF and played 19 minutes. He finished 2/4 and 2/6 from the line for 6 points, and he had 5 rebounds and an unusual 2 steals. Nene played 18 minutes and was 4/5 from the field and 3/5 from the stripe for 11 points, and he also had 5 rebounds, a block, and a steal. And swingman Diawara played 18 minutes and was 1/4, and 0/1 on 3's, for 2 points, and he had 2 rebounds and 2 steals. And as usual, he was working on his man to man coverage skills.

Steve Blake at the point had 12 assists. His motto must be: "all shooting stars will have to share and share alike". He himself was 2/8 and 1/4 on 3's, for 5 points.

Carmelo Anthony, sprung from living room confinement, played 33 minutes, and was 10/25, 0/1 on 3's, and a perfect 8/8 from the line, for 28 points. He added 6 assists and 5 rebounds. Before the game, he thanked everyone for supporting him and he promised the fans: "It's like a new beginning for us, and we're going to give y'all something to cheer for."

Allen Iverson played virtually the whole game as usual and was an expert 9/16, 2/3 on 3's, and 3/5 from the line for 23 points, and he had 7 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals.

Marcus Camby, who probably has the best hand skills for playing defense in basketball, played 29 minutes and was 6/11 and 5/11 from the line for 17 points. More importantly, he had 17 rebounds, 3 blocks, 3 assists, and 2 steals. His defensive presence in the paint persuaded various Grizzlies on various occassions to settle for a jumper rather than to drive to the hoop.

Whatever you do, if you are at a game when J.R. Smith comes in, don't leave your seat to go to the restroom or to buy a snack, because by the time you get back you may have missed him sinking 4 or 5 shots in 1 or 2 minutes flat. And make sure your kid doesn't take a two minute nap either when J.R. checks in. Everyone should pay attention when he comes in, because he is serious about his game and his game is serious about very quickly changing the score. Smith was given 24 minutes to work with, and he was 7/18, 4/14 on 3's, and 1/1 from the line for 19 points, and he had 5 rebounds, 2 steals, a block, and an assist.

The Grizzlies, being polite southern gentlemen, didn't even think of neck tackling Smith or any of the other Nuggets. In fact, they had very good things to say about their opponents. Said Pau Gasol regarding A.I. and Melo: "They play well together, they had a chemistry from the first moment. They have fun together and help each other out. I'm interested to see how they play together the rest of the year. They will be a very dangerous couple. It's tough to have to guard one of them. It's worse to have to worry about two great players."

Said Grizzlies coach Tony Barone regarding Melo's numerous drives to the hoop: "It shows what an incredible work ethic he has, coming onto the court and what does he do to try to win the game? He tries to go to the offensive glass, he runs the court and finished the break and does not try to be a pig. To me that's the mark of a good player. They will be a very good team as the season progresses with Allen, who was very unselfish tonight."

See what I mean, Southerners can be so polite when they want to be.

It's time for a quick flight to the great Northwest for the Nuggets, who will play the Sonics in Seattle tomorrow (Jan. 23) at 8 pm mountain time.

Sunday, January 21, 2007

Nuggets Emerge as Western Power, Defeat Rockets 121-113

The Nuggets would not surrender to the rested and at home Rockets despite being heavily pressured to do so all night long. The Rockets buried a bunch of 1st half threes, but the Nuggets scrapped and scrambled to stay alive in the fight during the first three quarters, so instead of a rout it was 86-77 after 3 quarters.

And then the Nuggets pounced on the Rockets early in the 4th, surprising them with energy that only a team with real determination and spirit can bring to a back to back game on the road. The Nuggets stunned the Rockets fans (and their own watching from far away, including a star forward sitting in front of his television) by clawing their way back from 90-77 with 10 1/2 minutes left to force overtime at 108-108. In overtime, the Nuggets had their prey paralyzed, and won the extra period quickly and decisively, getting 9 of their 13 overtime points with three 3-pointers. The amazing final score was Denver 121, Houston 113, in one overtime.

It was only one game. But was it really just one game? Sometimes one game can reveal something so important that it is like watching a dozen games all at once. And, as in this case, one game can be like the earth trembling hours before a big earthquake, a signal that there is a huge change in the foundations coming. Those who are afraid of changes to the existing order of things had better get out of the way and run for cover. The earth under the Western Conference shook a little tonight, signalling the possibility of a major quake down the road, a quake that would sweep away all the assumptions of the supposed basketball experts who confidently prognosticated that the Nuggets could not possibly compete with the Big 6 (Rockets, Mavericks, Spurs, Suns, Jazz, and Lakers), even with their new expertly designed lineup.

Now that the Nuggets, with no Melo, but with an incredible amount of determination, sweat, and spirit, have gone to Texas with no rest and defeated one of the well rested Big 6 in their building, you have to ask yourself, what more needs to happen before the Nuggets are considered to be at least on the level of the Big 6? The answer: nothing except for Melo returning, which will happen on Monday. So on Monday it is done: Denver has climbed the mountain, and the Nuggets have become one of the powerhouse teams of the Western Conference.

The team, put together by front office geniuses, is a complex mix of highly skilled veteran warriors and talented young players who all seem to, whatever their shortcomings, appreciate the great motivation and happiness that comes from winning. So they tend to selflessly do what they know they can for their team rather than do what they might want to do for their careers. Other than Najera, who is no longer starting, this team does not rely on mid-career role players; it has mostly players at the beginning of their careers who don't have known roles yet, and players near the end of their careers, who have gone way beyond roles.

And then there is Melo, who in his 4th year can already be considered a skilled veteran warrior, but at the same time a talented young player. As such, his great play represents all parts of the Nugget's squad at once. The Nuggets may now be the ultimate unified one for all and all for one team.

Melo's team amazingly proved that the Nuggets are a real threat to the Western Conference Establishment while he was just sitting in his living room watching the game. His teammates, having not just survived the trials and miseries of the suspensions, but also having emerged with more determination and spirit than they had before, have already given Melo a great welcome back, saying to him, in effect, "you can depend on us to fight for every game." The standing ovation in Denver on Monday night for the League scoring leader will now be for both Melo and for the rest of the Nuggets.

The Nuggets started the suspension games in good form, winning the first 3 of 4, but then fell into a huge sink hole during the middle of the 15 game suspension period, losing 5 straight and 7 out of 8. Analysts including myself started to think that the Nuggets would never reach the heights of the West. However, in the final 3 suspension games, the Nuggets climbed out of the deep hole and emerged with a 7-8 suspension record, thus keeping the game toll from Melo's little punch and David Stern's big temper to about 3 games, a very small toll for such a huge suspension. By the time they emerged into the light, they were deep in the territory of the Western Conference elite.

True, it was just one game. But it was a win the experts thought was not possible, so things have changed.

For much of the suspension period, it seemed almost as if the Nuggets were trying to play without a professional front court. All of a sudden, with Camby's finger fracture healed, with Nene's knee problems under control, with Evans starting over Najera, and with Kleiza finally contributing, the front court has become both solid and professional. A good example is Kleiza, who played 23 minutes and was 3/8, 2/5 on 3's, and 4/4 from the line for 12 points, and he had 2 rebounds.

Nene squeezed alot of sweat and soul into just 18 minutes, finishing 5/10 and 4/8 from the line for 14 points, and he also got 5 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Diawara, who as a rookie from a low-pressure college career could not prevent the Nuggets from falling into the 1-7 sinkhole when he started, has nonetheless learned a tremendous amount about pro basketball in the past month, most of all how you play to your strengths and skills, not to your wishes and hopes. In 31 minutes he was 4/7 and 2/4 on 3's for 10 points, and he had 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

New starting point guard Steve Blake played 35 minutes and was 4/9, 3/6 on 3's, and 1/1 from the line, for 12 points, and he had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, and a block. Blake had a 4-point play in overtime, because he was fouled by Alston on a sunk 3-pointer.

Marcus Camby, who has become the ultimate defensive presence in the paint, was just working his usual routine of controlling the boards and making numerous textbook blocks, while amazingly remaining as far away from foul trouble as you can be. But all of a sudden, the determination and spirit of the Nuggets to defy the establishment and win in Texas was apparent to everyone including him, and he finally started to go to the hoop. He had only 2 points with 7 minutes to play in regulation, but finished the (overtime) game 4/8, 0/1 on 3's, and 4/6 from the line, for 12 points. Camby's huge defensive skills produced 22 rebounds and 5 blocks.

It was J.R. Smith's skill and determination that was the real key that allowed the Nuggets to win this one against all odds. He's not starting, because he is not a polished, totally dependable veteran, but his skills and potential are way above those of the average shooting guard in the League. The Rockets were leading 90-77 with 10 1/2 minutes left in regulation, seemingly heading to an inevitable victory over the Nuggets who had alot of determination, but seemingly little energy and no known spark at the time.

It was J.R. Smith to the rescue time. Smith, who already had a pair of 1st half 3-pointers, buried two quick threes making it 90-83 Rockets. The Nuggets were back in it, and they refused to leave the building until they were completely out of the suspension hole and emerged as an elite team to boot. Smith had another three with 7:35 to go in regulation and added one near the end of overtime, to finish 6/9 from behind the 3-point arc.

The Nuggets as a whole were a staggering 15/29 from behind that arc. This is what you must do if you want to fight in the great battles of the West. You must be able to get your share of 3-point shots. Otherwise, no amount of running and fast breaking will allow you to consistently beat teams like the Lakers and the Spurs. You can be as flashy as you can be, but they will just hang back and beat you with 3-pointers. But if the Nuggets can get their share of 3's, the Lakers and everyone else are in trouble.

So in 31 minutes, J.R. was 9/14, 6/9 on 3's, and 0/2 from the line for 24 points, and he added 3 rebounds, 1 assist, a steal, and a block.

Allen Iverson, the ultimate road warrior, played 50 minutes and finished 12/30, 2/4 from downtown, and 10/13 from the line for 36 points. He also had 10 assists, 4 steals, and 3 rebounds. It was an Iverson kind of game. The other side was heavily favored, and his team was well behind most of the night. But his determination and spirit never faltered. He played well enough to allow the Nuggets to remain in striking distance until he, J.R., and M.C. did indeed strike in the 4th quarter and in overtime. Iverson thrives in exactly this kind of a game. To him, winning when you are supposed to lose is substantially more rewarding than winning when you are supposed to win. That's another reason why A.I. likes playing for the Nuggets: the Nuggets are not "supposed to" win in the playoffs.

In the next game, Carmelo Anthony joins this big 7 squad on Monday night in Denver at 7pm mountain time to play the Grizzlies.

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The Nuggets are scary, but Lakers fans can breathe a sigh of relief when they think of who coaches them!

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QUEST FOR THE RING SOMETIMES GOES INTO HIATUS
Regardless of any temporary unavoidable absences, the Quest is in this project to explain in detail for the very long term--indefinitely, for many, many, many years ahead. At this writing we have the equivalent of 15 basketball books under our belt and we plan on doing dozens more. Count on us being right where basketball is at, which is here, actually.

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The amount of reporting and the frequency of Quest Reports could easily be double what it is were site traffic higher. If Quest obtained the traffic we know it deserves, than production would go from the equivalent of roughly three books about basketball a year to at least five and to as many as six books a year!

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WELCOME TO THE QUEST--THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT HERE

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REAL ZONE
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.

Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.


A SMALL SAMPLE OF CURRENT AND SOON TO COME QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins

A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALREADY COMPLETED QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense

UNIQUE SITE DESIGN
The Quest is organized in a completely different way from what you are used to on the internet. We have combined the best features of the blog and the conventional web site formats, the latter being the norm for large organizations. However, since we do not like the idea of using flash to "wow" visitors, we do not use flash except within video and other discrete components. So we are state of the art in terms of expanding the power of visitors to get exactly what they want very quickly, but we do not have the latest flash gadgetry just to "keep up with the Joneses". More broadly, you will find that Quest for the Ring never seeks to keep up with the Joneses, simply because the Joneses never had the nerve and the intelligence to do what we do.

2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
Just before the 2009-10 season tipped, the very large number of features and links to important resources were strategically reorganized and placed within an easy to use and clearly labelled section system. So ended the era of the rapidly developed, sprawling and slightly disorganized Quest, and so began the era of the big but under careful control and extremely well organized and professional Quest for the Ring.

The Quest Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into the new sections as of November 2009. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining thing you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.

Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for those who know what they are looking for and wish to find and engage the appropriate link, But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience. The Quest home page is big enough and chock loaded enough that link hunting is not absolutely necessary the way it normally is at many other basketball sites.

THERE MUST BE TEN WAYS TO READ REPORTS [PAUL SIMON LOL]
There are close to ten ways to find out about, select, and read Quest Reports! The standard, traditional blog presentation is available as one of the many ways to choose, access, and read reports. On the Home Page, only one report loads in the traditional format in order to keep this page as quick loading as possible.
See the "Total Freedom of Navigation" section for complete details about how to find, choose, and read reports.

One key place to find Older Reports is on sequentially numbered url's thequestforthering2.blogspot.com, thequestforthering3.blogspot.com, and so forth.

THE QUEST USER GUIDE VERSUS an about page
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MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS

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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
The above are a few hightlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.

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