The Denver Nuggets have Defensive Problems and the Solution is Sitting on the Bench

The Nuggets are following about the same defensive strategy as last year: aggressive and extra energetic, heavy fouling, a lot of switching, and mostly man to man with little zone. Interestingly though, the results have been different.

So far in 2009-10, the Denver Nuggets, for the first time in at least several years, have a very good perimeter defense. Players such as Aaron Afflalo, J.R. Smith, Chauncey Billups, and Ty Lawson are getting the perimeter defense done with some help from Nuggets forwards and centers.

But the Nuggets’ paint defense is very poor so far. The Nuggets are giving up far more back door layups and paint defense breakdowns than last year. Man to man defending in the paint is not as good this year as last. The defensive situation is basically the reverse of last year vis a vis perimeter versus paint.

For dependable playoffs wins, you need to have a more balanced defense than the Nuggets have this year. Worse for the Nuggets, if you have to be stuck with one or the other, its somewhat better to have a porous perimeter defense and a solid paint defense than the other way around. To sum it up bluntly, you absolutely must defend the paint well in the playoffs.

As a result of their weakness in crucial paint defending, the Nuggets overall are not as good defensively so far this year as they were last year.

Meanwhile, the Nuggets’ relatively poor defensive rebounding has been made even worse by the poor paint defending of the team. After Marcus Camby was given away by the owner due to the economics emergency, the Nuggets overnight went from being a great defensive rebounding team to a relatively poor one. They have never recovered, because none of the primary centers and forwards are great defensive rebounders, and a secondary problem is that Nuggets’ guards are not getting all of the rebounds that guards should get.

To solve the rebounding problem, the Nuggets have to get their guards to get more rebounds (which is reasonable to ask for since the paint defense breaks down so much) and they have to play power forward Renaldo Balkman more, who is an outstanding rebounder and an outstanding man to man defender.

Getting Carmelo Anthony to rebound more is a possibility too, but since Anthony has taken the offense on his back (and it was smart for him to do that) you don’t want him to start worrying about exactly how many rebounds he gets. Not to mention that Anthony will never be a great rebounder regardless of how much effort he puts into it. The costs exceed the benefits with respect to demanding that Anthony gets many more defensive rebounds.

The best defensive rebounders on the team are both sitting on the bench all the time: Renaldo Balkman and center Johan Petro. Nene and Chris Andersen are solid but not spectacular, but Kenyon Martin is a sub par rebounder at least as far as the playoffs are concerned and, as almost everyone knows, Carmelo Anthony is not even a good defensive rebounder. He is mediocre at best.

So we need to come back to Balkman: he is the solution to multiple problems that the Nuggets are having on defense right now. Renaldo Balkman is an excellent man to man paint defender and an excellent rebounder. Balkman is better at both of those things than Chris Andersen, but he is less popular in Denver so for that stupid reason Andersen plays and Balman does not. But the Nuggets need both of them.

Offensively, Balkman is similar to Chris Andersen: he fits in with the Nuggets’ fast breaking and free wheeling offense. Like Andersen, he gets a lot of offensive put backs, he can initiate or finish a fast break, he chooses shots wisely, and he can dunk the ball well. He is by no stretch a zero (or a very low number) offensively.

WILL THE NUGGETS SOLVE THEIR DEFENSIVE WEAKNESS BY PLAYING BALKMAN?
Will the Nuggets improve their poor rebounding and porous paint defending in order to shore up their defense, which in turn gives them a decent chance for a rematch with the Lakers in the 2010 West final? Most likely not; because Balkman is on the bench. And once George Karl has more or less benched someone in November, in most cases that player is more or less benched for the season.

Sure, Karl will once in a blue moon play a more or less benched player such as Balkman. He has to play such a player when there is an injury or two. But on those occasions the player will be judged far more critically than players who were never in that black hole known as the George Karl bench. So inevitably it will be back to the bench with that player after a game or a few games, unless there is a long term injury situation.

Do you remember that song “Hotel California”? “You can check out any time, but you can never leave”. That’s George Karl’s bench. A player on Karl’s bench can check out for a game or two or three, but he can’t completely break free from that bench until at least the following season.

Moreover, Karl consistently is biased in favor of reserves who are guards, particularly point guards and especially, although this may be just a coincidence, short point guards. Since overall Karl is not at all generous with playing time for reserves, you can deduce quickly that forwards who are not starters can end up very deep on the bench, which is precisely where Renaldo Balkman is this year.

But last year, Karl was a defensive animal more so than this year, and Balkman played, and Balkman had a very, very high Real Player Rating:

Carmelo Anthony DEN 0.901
Nene Hilario DEN 0.880
Chauncey Billups DEN 0.870
Chris Andersen DEN 0.835
J.R. Smith DEN 0.824
Renaldo Balkman DEN 0.815
Kenyon Martin DEN 0.754
Anthony Carter DEN 0.669
Linas Kleiza DEN 0.610
Dahntay Jones DEN 0.445

Balkman most definitely deserves a lot more playing time. More importantly, the Nuggets’ defense definitely needs Balkman to get a lot more playing time.

The Nuggets, despite the fact they use offensive strategies that are destined to fail sooner or later in the playoffs, are chock loaded with offensive talent. They have more than enough scorers. They can definitely afford to reduce the playing times of two or three guards. One possibility is that George Karl has a very bad habit of playing two point guards at once and, if he just stopped that, he would open up a good chunk of playing time for Balkman.

So far, since the strengths and weaknesses of the Nuggets’ defense have flipped around, opposing teams have not yet taken full advantage of the Nuggets’ poor paint defending. Opposing teams are still thinking that you can't score easily against the Nuggets in the paint. Soon though, it will be common knowledge around the League that unlike last year you can beat the Nuggets in the paint, at which time the Nuggets will be in much more jeopardy than they are now.

The bottom line: get Balkman in there now, Nuggets, or pay an increasing price as the season goes along. You have no chance of winning the West final with your defensive rebounding and paint defending the way it is now.

SUNS CHEATED AGAIN; COACH TOSSED WHEN HE PROTESTS
For the second straight year, the Phoenix Suns were cheated out of overtime and a very possible victory in Denver. This year’s annual “Suns are Cheated in Denver Game” was on Saturday night, December 12. Phoenix Coach Alvin Gentry was thrown out of the game with a few seconds left for going ballistic after Steve Nash drove through the porous Denver Nuggets paint defense and was fouled repeatedly by Nene. The only problem is: there was no foul called. So Nash could neither finish his layup nor make his free throws and the Suns could not tie the score. For the second straight year, a Phoenix at Denver overtime game was truncated into a Denver victory.

Last year, Dahntay Jones tripped Grant Hill going in for the tying score and there was no foul call.

Although so far it’s not as extreme as it was last year as far as the rate or, of course, the total number of improbable or lucky wins goes, the Nuggets are this year once again racking up lucky wins, often with unwitting, we hope accidental assistance from the referees. The Nuggets have won at least four disputable games so far, at least half of which should have been losses. Believe it or not, so far, this year’s disputable win rate is lower than last year’s. Last year's Nuggets disputable, controversial win rate was nothing short of science fiction.

Real Player Ratings for the 2009 West Final, Game 3: Lakers 103 Nuggets 97

Editorial Notice: Quest for the Ring will be between now and the end of 2009 providing a complete Real Player Rating Series Report, like the one below, for each and every 2009 West Final game, for each and every 2009 East Final game, and for each game in the 2009 NBA Final Series. The Mavericks-Nuggets West Semifinal series is also being covered this way in full.

Following the posting of the Real Player Ratings Series Reports, we will post the Real Game Ratings Reports for all of these games. Following these Real Game Ratings, which were just created in the spring of 2009 and which have hardly appeared on Quest at all yet, we will pick some games to focus on for full scale text Reports. In the text reports, we will of course as appropriate make use of and link back to the completed performance measure reports.

Quest for the Ring, as of spring 2009, has realistically and strategically decided to concentrate its advanced performance measurement, reporting, and analysis capabilities on the games that matter the most each year in the NBA: the conference final games and the NBA Championship games.

USER GUIDE
The Real Player Rating User Guide is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the following measures. Moreover, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

WEST FINAL 2009 GAME THREE
MAY 23 2009 IN DENVER, CO
LOS ANGELES LAKERS 103 DENVER NUGGETS 97
LAKERS LEAD THE SERIES 2-1

BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games.

LAKERS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.206
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.799
Pau Gasol, PF 0.641
Shannon Brown, PG 0.314
Lamar Odom, PF 0.295
Derek Fisher, PG 0.290
Andrew Bynum, C 0.257
Luke Walton, SF 0.171
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.120
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.114

NUGGETS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Chris Andersen, C 1.075
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.949
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.711
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.690
J.R. Smith, SG 0.582
Nene, C 0.485
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.475
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.206
Anthony Carter, PG 0.192


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 1.206
Chris Andersen, DEN C 1.075
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.949
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.799
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.711
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.690
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 0.641
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.582
Nene, DEN C 0.485
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.475
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 0.314
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.295
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 0.290
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.257
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.206
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 0.192
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.171
Sasha Vujacic, LAL SG 0.120
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 0.114

EVALUATION SCALE FOR BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.800 0.899
Very Good Player: A Solid Starter 0.700 0.799
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.600 0.699
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.500 0.599
Satisfactory Role Player 0.425 0.499
Marginal Role Player 0.350 0.424
Poor Player 0.275 0.349
Very Poor Player 0.200 0.274
Extremely Poor Player .199 and less

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REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Basic Real Player Production
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games

LAKERS BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Kobe Bryant, SG 49.46
Pau Gasol, PF 27.58
Trevor Ariza, SF 25.55
Lamar Odom, PF 8.85
Derek Fisher, PG 7.53
Andrew Bynum, C 5.39
Shannon Brown, PG 2.51
Luke Walton, SF 2.40
Jordan Farmar, PG 1.59
Sasha Vujacic, SG 1.44

NUGGETS BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Chauncey Billups, PG 28.43
Chris Andersen, C 25.79
Carmelo Anthony, SF 17.56
J.R. Smith, SG 15.13
Nene, C 15.03
Linas Kleiza, SF 13.29
Dahntay Jones, SG 11.73
Kenyon Martin, PF 7.20
Anthony Carter, PG 2.88


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 49.46
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 28.43
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 27.58
Chris Andersen, DEN C 25.79
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 25.55
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 17.56
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 15.13
Nene, DEN C 15.03
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 13.29
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 11.73
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 8.85
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 7.53
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 7.20
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 5.39
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 2.88
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 2.51
Luke Walton, LAL SF 2.40
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 1.59
Sasha Vujacic, LAL SG 1.44

============== SUB RATINGS ==============
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Offensive Plays

LAKERS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.032
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.601
Pau Gasol, PF 0.341
Lamar Odom, PF 0.254
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.069
Derek Fisher, PG 0.051
Shannon Brown, PG 0.050
Sasha Vujacic, SG -0.082
Andrew Bynum, C -0.107
Luke Walton, SF -0.109

NUGGETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.772
Chris Andersen, C 0.660
J.R. Smith, SG 0.597
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.424
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.411
Nene, C 0.361
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.273
Anthony Carter, PG 0.172
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.087


COMBINED SORT OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 1.032
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.772
Chris Andersen, DEN C 0.660
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.601
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.597
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.424
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.411
Nene, DEN C 0.361
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 0.341
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.273
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.254
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 0.172
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.087
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 0.069
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 0.051
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 0.050
Sasha Vujacic, LAL SG -0.082
Andrew Bynum, LAL C -0.107
Luke Walton, LAL -0.109

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DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Defensive Plays
Does not include hidden defending because procedure is invalid at game level.

LAKERS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Andrew Bynum, C 0.364
Pau Gasol, PF 0.300
Luke Walton, SF 0.281
Shannon Brown, PG 0.264
Derek Fisher, PG 0.239
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.202
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.198
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.174
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.044
Lamar Odom, PF 0.041


NUGGETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.539
Chris Andersen, C 0.415
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.287
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.201
Nene, C 0.124
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.119
Anthony Carter, PG 0.020
J.R. Smith, SG -0.015
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.082


COMBINED SORT DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.539
Chris Andersen, DEN C 0.415
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.364
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 0.300
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.287
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.281
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 0.264
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 0.239
Sasha Vujacic, LAL SG 0.202
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.201
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.198
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.174
Nene, DEN C 0.124
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.119
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 0.044
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.041
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 0.020
J.R. Smith, DEN SG -0.015
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG -0.082

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USER GUIDE
The Real Player Rating User Guide is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the following measures. Moreover, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

It's all Good now that Allen Iverson is Back Home Again

Home is where the heart is, so home in Philadelphia is where you will now find Allen Iverson, who still in 2009 is the heart of basketball. Iverson is not the greatest team player in history, but Iverson haters and anyone else for that matter who thinks that basketball is a team sport only are very, very wrong. Basketball is a team and an individual sport at the same time, you silly fools. I ask the Iverson haters and basketball fools: can’t you walk and chew gum at the same time? Can’t you see that Rings are won by teams that have both high quality team play and historical superstar individual players? You need to find another sport if you disagree with this, because this is how it is and this is how it always will be while basketball is being played.

Iverson was punked by the Denver Nuggets, treated as a marketing asset and not as a weapon to try to win a Championship with. Detroit was even worse: the Pistons not only punked Iverson, but they punked all their players and all their fans for that matter. The Pistons totally threw away their 2008-09 season as they hunkered down awaiting the summer of 2010 free agency gold mine.

You never, ever throw away a season if you ever want to win a Ring, but Detroit did just that. Iverson quit Detroit late in that season, but even players who were still playing had partially quit. For example, Rasheed Wallace was only about 3/4 the player for Detroit in 2008-09 that he is now for 2010 Ring front-runner Boston. Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Aaron Afflalo, and even Richard Hamilton didn’t go all out because General Manager Joe Dumars stupidly announced long before that season started that Detroit was in rebuilding mode, that all current Pistons might stay or go in the summer of 2010 depending on who knows what, and that the bulk of the rebuilding would take place in the summer of 2010. The coach, Michael Curry, was a rookie who never quit rearranging his lineups and rotations the whole season long; Curry literally was unable to decide which lineup and which rotations were the best. Is there really all that much to play for after that kind of announcement from the General Manager and with that kind of inept Coach (who of course was fired after the season)?

One can only hope that Dumars’ team fails to become a winning team even in 2010-11, after he picks up a big star or two, which will emphasize the points that you never ever waste a season, that you never ever announce rebuilding way in advance, and that you never ever assume your rebuilding is going to work out. Dumars needs to be taught a lesson that no one will ever forget.

So Iverson quit the Pistons in March 2009, but we know as fact that he was quitting a team that had quit as a whole. So Iverson was entirely logical to quit, which isn’t the first time he has been logical. Iverson is logical all the time, but he is not strategic. He sometimes does things that are logical in a narrow sense, but are counterproductive in an overall sense. Iverson is never going to coach basketball. He thinks well and correctly, but not strategically. He misses the forest for the trees sometimes.

If there ever was a great player who desperately needed quality coaching, Iverson is that one, but he never had a quality coach who really knew what he was doing with respect to him. He was cheated badly in that respect; his coaches all failed to coach him correctly.

Those who see the whole forest can think strategically. Coaches are supposed to think strategically, but some fail at this, either because they don’t think strategically either, or because they just are not any good at picking out the best strategy out of many possibilities. Phil Jackson picks out one of the best strategies to get things done on the basketball court and George Karl sometimes (often?) picks out one of the not so good strategies. Jackson wins Rings and Karl doesn’t. Strategies are very important.

I checked the depth charts on December 7, 2009, the day Iverson was to play for the Philadelphia 76’ers for the first time since exactly three years ago in 2006. ESPN did not have Iverson on the 76’ers depth chart at all yet, but CBS Sportsline showed Iverson as the starting point guard. Not the starting 2-guard, but the starting point guard. The media has through the years time and again showed Iverson as a point guard, but coaches making errors (by themselves or on orders from owners or general managers) have persisted from time to time in removing his point guard designation, foisting him onto the shooting guard position, and thus making a mess of both Iverson’s game and a bigger mess of the team offense.

Iverson has been repeatedly cheated and badly coached by a series of mistaken coaches, who, remember, are total dictators. A player can not refuse to play a position for any reason; Iverson is not at fault for refusing to play 2-guard; all players have to and always do play whatever position they are assigned to by the dictator coaches. Whether Iverson would have insisted on continuing at point guard had he had the power to do so is an interesting question that we will never know the answer to.

THE SPECIAL REPORT
This article is just an outline of the full treatment of this subject, which is found in a partly completed Quest Special Report: “Allen Iverson, What Could Have Been”. We are re-editing the existing chapters in that Report and will be adding many more chapters. We are going to make a complete record on how Iverson’s career and how was cheated out of a real chance to win a Championship Ring. And we are going to in great detail explain just how idiotic the Iverson haters are. Because there is so much other work going on, this is going to take a year or two, three years at the most, but I guarantee you this project will eventually be completed.

HOME IS BY FAR THE BEST PLACE TO BE
So Iverson was cheered greatly in Philly on December 7, 2009 like he was for years and years before. He was starting point guard for the 76’ers just like he was at the start of his rookie year in 1996. Before Larry Brown came along and fouled things up after he decided to fight Allen Iverson rather than meet him half way.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Iverson was jerked from 1-guard to 2-guard, which eventually led to his being jerked from Philadelphia to Denver and then from Denver to Detroit. Now he is back where it all began, and where it was always supposed to be.

There was never any position and place for Iverson that could work other than point guard in Philadelphia. Iverson could have been a point guard in Denver, but Denver did not have the quality coaching to bring that about. So Iverson was and is like a rare and extremely valuable rock in the earth that is only found in one place. Any other position or place was doomed to failure.

But Iverson as point guard in Philadelphia was gold and was priceless. Had Larry Brown not wimped out and lashed out during his temper tantrums over Iverson and made the idiotic decision to move Iverson to 2-guard, the 76’ers most likely would have won at least one Ring with Iverson at point guard in Philadelphia. When Brown moved Iverson to 2-guard, it was like a Russian czar banishing someone to Siberia.

Iverson at 1-guard was how it was supposed to be according to what basketball actually, really is: a combination of a team game and an individual game. You need both a quality team game and players who can score one on one regardless of the defending. Iverson always knew this, Larry Brown not so much, and George Karl definitely not.

While playing both guard positions at once in the 2001 playoffs, Iverson took the 76’ers to the Championship and lost to Shaquille O’Neal, Kobe Bryant, point guard Derek Fisher, and Coach Phil Jackson. That the 76’ers were even in that Championship was a miracle due to Iverson and Iverson alone. Just a few years earlier, the year before Iverson was first draft pick for them, the 76’ers were the worst team in basketball, a team that could not even win 20 games. This was a team even worse than recent Memphis Grizzlies teams. Iverson moved that pathetic 76'ers team up zillions of miles; he’ll get Hall of Fame just for that unheard of achievement alone.

Basketball was stale and kind of boring before in 2001 Iverson had the 76’ers in the Championship. The guy who lost the election was nevertheless the President, the economic boom of the Clinton years had come to a close, and in general society was teetering on the brink of disaster. In that year, most people were deciding to not believe in things anymore: to tune out and to chill out. But there was Iverson playing basketball the way anyone with historic one on one skills should play it, wrong position and all, a short 5 feet 11 ½ inches and all, bad team and all. Iverson was in effect playing with one hand behind his back, or else he was like two players in one, I’m not quite sure which is the better way to look at it.

But he was still the best and he was still taking the 76’ers to the brink of the most improbable, no, the most impossible ring you could ever imagine. It was impossible that the 76’ers, just a few years removed from 18-64 the year before Iverson arrived could even be in the Championship, let alone win it. Yet there they were, and there was Iverson; who other than the haters will ever forget it?

Iverson saved basketball from being stale, he turned on millions of fans, he developed a world-wide following which exists to this day, and he made a lot of money for a lot of people. Allen Iverson was basketball, still is basketball, and he will be basketball forever.

Now MVP, (future) Hall of Fame, and career 76’er point guard Iverson has come home. The haters are irrelevant again; they are just a bunch of jerks who don’t deserve the time of day. Meanwhile, Larry Brown is irrelevant now too; he currently is in charge of the worst offense in the League (Charlotte Bobcats) because for one thing he doesn’t fully appreciate what point guards can do.

All is right with basketball again now that Allen Iverson is back home.
























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