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Saturday, November 28, 2009

NBA MVP Equals One Ring and NBA Hall of Fame Equals Two Rings

Effective immediately, a NBA Most Valuable Player designation equals one Ring and an NBA Hall of Fame designation equals two Rings.

The Quest for the Ring, the basketball project that is totally dedicated to explaining how and why those who win Rings win them, with about 1.4 million words toward this objective and counting, is announcing today that all NBA players who have won the annual Most Valuable Player award will be considered to have won the Quest for the Ring once. We also announce that all NBA players and all NBA head coaches admitted to the NBA Hall of Fame will be considered to have won the Quest twice.

Hall of Fame inductees who were not part of the NBA are not considered to have won a Ring. The Quest for the Ring is the Quest to win the Championship of the primary pro basketball League in the US since about 1950. That primary League is the National Basketball Association, or NBA.

In other words, being League MVP is at a minimum equal in importance and amount of accomplishment to winning the Ring. And being in the NBA Hall of Fame for basketball greatness across an entire career is at least equal in importance and amount of accomplishment to two Rings from winning Championships.

Actually, those two equivalencies are both very conservative approximations. MVP should actually be worth at least two rings and Hall of Fame should actually be worth about three Rings. But for now, we’ll leave the equivalencies very conservative as stated.

Anyone who disagrees can try to explain why being NBA MVP or winning that rare acceptance to the Basketball Hall of Fame is not AT LEAST as much of an honor and accomplishment as is winning a Championship. Good luck if you set out to do that, because I highly doubt you will succeed at showing that.

We will within the next six months be updating the Reports that came out last summer that showed the number of rings won by player.

Allen Iverson and other MVPs and Hall of Famers who never won a Championship finally have Rings at the place on the Internet that is totally dedicated to the Ring and how you win it: The Quest for the Ring.

Congratulations to Allen Iverson and to every other MVP and Hall of Fame player who somehow (due to bad coaches, for example) never won a Ring. You get what you clearly deserve at Quest for the Ring.

ONE RING FOR EACH OF THE FOLLOWING:
NBA MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS

1955–56

Bob Pettit

St. Louis Hawks

Forward

1956–57

Bob Cousy

Boston Celtics

Guard

1957–58

Bill Russell

Boston Celtics

Center

1958–59

Bob Pettit

St. Louis Hawks

Forward

1959–60

Wilt Chamberlain

Philadelphia Warriors

Center

1960–61

Bill Russell

Boston Celtics

Center

1961–62

Bill Russell

Boston Celtics

Center

1962–63

Bill Russell

Boston Celtics

Center

1963–64

Oscar Robertson

Cincinnati Royals

Guard

1964–65

Bill Russell

Boston Celtics

Center

1965–66

Wilt Chamberlain

Philadelphia 76ers

Center

1966–67

Wilt Chamberlain

Philadelphia 76ers

Center

1967–68

Wilt Chamberlain

Philadelphia 76ers

Center

1968–69

Wes Unseld

Baltimore Bullets

Center/Forward

1969–70

Willis Reed

New York Knicks

Center/Forward

1970–71

Lew Alcindor

Milwaukee Bucks

Center

1971–72

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Milwaukee Bucks

Center

1972–73

Dave Cowens

Boston Celtics

Center

1973–74

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Milwaukee Bucks

Center

1974–75

Bob McAdoo

Buffalo Braves

Forward/Center

1975–76

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Los Angeles Lakers

Center

1976–77

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Los Angeles Lakers

Center

1977–78

Bill Walton

Portland Trail Blazers

Center

1978–79

Moses Malone

Houston Rockets

Center/Forward

1979–80

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Los Angeles Lakers

Center

1980–81

Julius Erving

Philadelphia 76ers

Forward

1981–82

Moses Malone

Houston Rockets

Center/Forward

1982–83

Moses Malone

Philadelphia 76ers

Center/Forward

1983–84

Larry Bird

Boston Celtics

Forward

1984–85

Larry Bird

Boston Celtics

Forward

1985–86

Larry Bird

Boston Celtics

Forward

1986–87

Magic Johnson

Los Angeles Lakers

Guard

1987–88

Michael Jordan

Chicago Bulls

Guard

1988–89

Magic Johnson

Los Angeles Lakers

Guard

1989–90

Magic Johnson

Los Angeles Lakers

Guard

1990–91

Michael Jordan

Chicago Bulls

Guard

1991–92

Michael Jordan

Chicago Bulls

Guard

1992–93

Charles Barkley

Phoenix Suns

Forward

1993–94

Hakeem Olajuwon

Houston Rockets

Center

1994–95

David Robinson

San Antonio Spurs

Center

1995–96

Michael Jordan

Chicago Bulls

Guard

1996–97

Karl Malone

Utah Jazz

Forward

1997–98

Michael Jordan

Chicago Bulls

Guard

1998–99

Karl Malone

Utah Jazz

Forward

1999–00

Shaquille O'Neal

Los Angeles Lakers

Center

2000–01

Allen Iverson

Philadelphia 76ers

Guard

2001–02

Tim Duncan

San Antonio Spurs

Forward/Center

2002–03

Tim Duncan

San Antonio Spurs

Forward/Center

2003–04

Kevin Garnett

Minnesota Timberwolves

Forward

2004–05

Steve Nash

Phoenix Suns

Guard

2005–06

Steve Nash

Phoenix Suns

Guard

2006–07

Dirk Nowitzki

Dallas Mavericks

Forward

2007–08

Kobe Bryant

Los Angeles Lakers

Guard

2008–09

LeBron James

Cleveland Cavaliers

Forward


TWO RINGS FOR EACH OF THE FOLLOWING:
NBA PLAYERS AND COACHES ADMITTED
TO THE BASKETBALL HALL OF FAME
2009 Michael Jordan
2009 David Robinson
2009 Jerry Sloan
2009 John Stockton
2008 Adrian Dantley
2008 Patrick Ewing
2008 Hakeem Olajuwon
2008 Pat Riley
2007 Phil Jackson
2006 Charles Barkley
2006 Joe Dumars
2006 Dominique Wilkins
2004 Clyde Drexler
2004 Bill Sharman
2004 Maurice Stokes
2003 Robert Parish
2003 James Worthy
2002 Larry Brown
2002 Magic Johnson
2002 Drazen Petrovic
2001 Moses Malone
2000 Bob McAdoo
2000 Isiah Thomas
1999 Kevin McHale
1998 Larry Bird
1998 Alex Hannum
1998 Arnie Risen
1998 Lenny Wilkens
1997 Alex English
1997 Bailey Howell
1996 George Gervin
1996 Gail Goodrich
1996 David Thompson
1996 George Yardley
1995 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
1995 John Kundla
1995 Vern Mikkelsen
1994 Chuck Daly
1994 Buddy Jeannette
1993 Walt Bellamy
1993 Julius Erving
1993 Dan Issel
1993 Dick McGuire
1993 Calvin Murphy
1993 Bill Walton
1992 Connie Hawkins
1992 Bob Lanier
1992 Jack Ramsay
1991 Tiny Archibald
1991 Dave Cowens
1991 Harry Gallatin
1990 Dave Bing
1990 Elvin Hayes
1990 Neil Johnston
1990 Earl Monroe
1989 K.C. Jones
1989 Lenny Wilkens
1988 Clyde Lovellette
1988 Wes Unseld
1987 Rick Barry
1987 Walt Frazier
1987 Bob Houbregs
1987 Pete Maravich
1987 Bobby Wanzer
1986 Billy Cunningham
1986 Tom Heinsohn
1986 Red Holzman
1985 Al Cervi
1985 Nate Thurmond
1984 John Havlicek
1984 Sam Jones
1983 Bill Bradley
1983 Dave DeBusschere
1983 Jack Twyman
1982 Hal Greer
1982 Slater Martin
1982 Frank Ramsey
1982 Willis Reed
1980 Jerry Lucas
1980 Oscar Robertson
1980 Jerry West
1979 Wilt Chamberlain
1978 Paul Arizin
1978 Joe Fulks
1978 Cliff Hagan
1978 Jim Pollard
1977 Elgin Baylor
1977 Frank McGuire
1976 Tom Gola
1976 Bill Sharman
1975 Bill Russell
1973 Dolph Schayes
1971 Bob Cousy
1971 Bob Pettit
1970 Bob Davies
1969 Red Auerbach
1968 Alvin Julian
1964 Kenneth Loeffler
1961 Andy Phillip
1960 Ed Macauley
1959 George Mikan

There you go Allen Iverson, you can retire in peace now, you have a Ring already with two more on the way. Even playing the wrong position, hell, even playing two positions at once, in effect with one hand behind your back, you were a Champion.

How could any player win an ordinary Championship while playing the wrong position and/or while playing two positions at once due to bad coaching? That's most likely impossible. But Allen Iverson won everything he could win with the position and the very poor coaching he was given.

You will forever be basketball, Allen Iverson, and Quest thanks you more than we can say for giving us our faith in and love of basketball.

ALLEN IVERSON: NBA 2001 MVP AND WINNER OF ONE RING
WITH TWO MORE TO COME WHEN ALLEN ENTERS THE HALL OF FAME





















ALLEN IVERSON = BASKETBALL

FOREVER

Real Player Ratings for the 2009 West Final, Game 2: Nuggets 106 Lakers 103

Editorial Notice: Quest for the Ring will be between now and the end of 2009 providing a complete Real Player Rating Series Report, like the one below, for each and every 2009 West Final game, for each and every 2009 East Final game, and for each game in the 2009 NBA Final Series. The Mavericks-Nuggets West Semifinal series is also being covered this way in full.

Following the posting of the Real Player Ratings Series Reports, we will post the Real Game Ratings Reports for all of these games. Following these Real Game Ratings, which were just created in the spring of 2009 and which have hardly appeared on Quest at all yet, we will pick some games to focus on for full scale text Reports. In the text reports, we will of course as appropriate make use of and link back to the completed performance measure reports.

Quest for the Ring, as of spring 2009, has realistically and strategically decided to concentrate its advanced performance measurement, reporting, and analysis capabilities on the games that matter the most each year in the NBA: the conference final games and the NBA Championship games.


USER GUIDE
The Real Player Rating User Guide is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the following measures. Moreover, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

WEST FINAL 2009 GAME TWO
MAY 21, 2009 IN LOS ANGELES, CA
DENVER NUGGETS 106 LOS ANGELES LAKERS 103
SERIES IS TIED 1-1

BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games.

NUGGETS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Linas Kleiza, SF 1.193
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.725
Nene, C 0.640
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.629
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.591
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.402
Chris Andersen, FC 0.223
J.R. Smith, SG 0.108

LAKERS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.910
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.894
Lamar Odom, PF 0.802
Pau Gasol, FC 0.751
Andrew Bynum, C 0.530
Luke Walton, SF 0.421
Shannon Brown, SG 0.366
Derek Fisher, PG -0.106


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 1.193
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.910
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.894
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.802
Pau Gasol, LAL FC 0.751
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.725
Nene, DEN C 0.640
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.629
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.591
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.530
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.421
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.402
Shannon Brown, LAL SG 0.366
Chris Andersen, DEN FC 0.223
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.108
Derek Fisher, LAL PG -0.106

EVALUATION SCALE FOR BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.800 0.899
Very Good Player: A Solid Starter 0.700 0.799
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.600 0.699
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.500 0.599
Satisfactory Role Player 0.425 0.499
Marginal Role Player 0.350 0.424
Poor Player 0.275 0.349
Very Poor Player 0.200 0.274
Extremely Poor Player .199 and less

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REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Basic Real Player Production
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games

NUGGETS BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Carmelo Anthony, SF 30.46
Linas Kleiza, SF 26.24
Chauncey Billups, PG 25.98
Nene, C 22.39
Kenyon Martin, PF 22.03
Dahntay Jones, SG 5.23
Chris Andersen, FC 4.46
J.R. Smith, SG 2.70

LAKERS BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Kobe Bryant, SG 36.40
Pau Gasol, FC 33.05
Trevor Ariza, SF 29.50
Lamar Odom, PF 24.07
Andrew Bynum, C 9.55
Luke Walton, SF 7.99
Shannon Brown, SG 6.21
Derek Fisher, PG -2.96


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 36.40
Pau Gasol, LAL FC 33.05
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 30.46
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 29.50
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 26.24
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 25.98
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 24.07
Nene, DEN C 22.39
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 22.03
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 9.55
Luke Walton, LAL SF 7.99
Shannon Brown, LAL SG 6.21
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 5.23
Chris Andersen, DEN FC 4.46
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 2.70
Derek Fisher, LAL PG -2.96

============== SUB RATINGS ==============
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Offensive Plays

NUGGETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.986
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.574
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.547
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.486
Nene, C 0.366
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.332
J.R. Smith, SG 0.039
Chris Andersen, FC -0.029

LAKERS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.809
Lamar Odom, PF 0.598
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.557
Shannon Brown, SG 0.406
Pau Gasol, FC 0.403
Luke Walton, SF 0.267
Andrew Bynum, C 0.213
Derek Fisher, PG -0.056


COMBINED SORT OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.986
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.809
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.598
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.574
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.557
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.547
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.486
Shannon Brown, LAL SG 0.406
Pau Gasol, LAL FC 0.403
Nene, DEN C 0.366
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.332
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.267
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.213
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.039
Chris Andersen, DEN FC -0.029
Derek Fisher, LAL PG -0.056

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DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Defensive Plays
Does not include hidden defending because procedure is invalid at game level.

NUGGETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Nene, C 0.274
Chris Andersen, FC 0.252
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.207
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.151
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.143
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.070
J.R. Smith, SG 0.069
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.044

LAKERS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Pau Gasol, FC 0.348
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.337
Andrew Bynum, C 0.318
Lamar Odom, PF 0.205
Luke Walton, SF 0.154
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.101
Shannon Brown, SG -0.041
Derek Fisher, PG -0.050


COMBINED SORT DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Pau Gasol, LAL FC 0.348
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.337
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.318
Nene, DEN C 0.274
Chris Andersen, DEN FC 0.252
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.207
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.205
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.154
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.151
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.143
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.101
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.070
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.069
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.044
Shannon Brown, LAL SG -0.041
Derek Fisher, LAL PG -0.050

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USER GUIDE
The Real Player Rating User Guide is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the following measures. Moreover, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

Thursday, November 26, 2009

Dallas Mavericks are a Wild Card Contender: Marc Cuban Persists and Comes up with a Winner

How about those Mavericks, folks? Did I not try to warn you a while back about how they improved exactly what needed to be improved in the off-season?

A QUICK AND PARTIAL DALLAS MAVERICKS TIMELINE
June 2005: the Dallas Mavericks break the hearts of north Texas basketball fans and lose, in Dallas no less, to Dwyane Wade and the Miami Heat in the NBA Championship.

April-May 2007: the Dallas Mavericks embarrass the north Texas basketball fans by as the 1st seed in the West losing to the 8th seed Golden State Warriors in the first round of the playoffs.

May 2009: The Mavericks, in a series covered extensively on this site, are defeated by the Denver Nuggets in a West semifinal, 4-2. Dallas Mavericks owner Marc Cuban, due to his crime of getting upset by the Nuggets playing fast and lose with the foul rules, is dragged through the mud by the Denver media, by fans in Denver, by Denver Power Forward Kenyon Martin, and by Denver Coach George Karl. (Hell, he was even dragged through the mud by a substantial number of Mavericks fans, which was especially uncalled for.)

June-September 2009: Dallas Mavericks owner Marc Cuban helps retrofit the Mavericks in the off-season in a very smart way, apparently succeeding beyond expectations of building a truly dangerous team. Cuban and his managers beef up the defense, the toughness, and yes even the swagger without sacrificing a dime on the already powerful Dallas offense.

November 25, 2009: The Mavericks travel to Houston where with this new and improved roster they decimate the injury-damaged but supposed to be very tough at home Houston Rockets 130-99. That is not a typo, the Mavs actually scored 130 points.

November 25, 2009: Mavericks Shooting Guard Jason Terry scores one of the highest real player ratings for a game you will ever see, a 1.703, as the Mavericks annihilate the Rockets in Houston 130-99. Terry was an incredible 4-4 on threes, 6-7 on twos, 3-3 from the line, and he had 10 assists and zero turnovers. When we look for players who deserve rings, that's what we look for. Jason Terry should get a Ring sometime.

November 25, 2009: Dallas owner Marc Cuban knows he has succeeded at producing a real contender, and licks his chops as he thinks about what a hurting his new team might put on the hated Nuggets and possibly even the Lakers later this season.

November 25, 2009: Quest for the Ring changes it's West final projection from Lakers 4 Spurs 1 to Lakers 4 Mavericks 2, and promises to keep watching what it calls "a dangerous potential threat for the Lakers' assumption that they will represent the West again in 2010, especially given the recent Lakers' tendency to take their sweet time before pouring on their offensive jets, and given that the Mavericks have already defeated the Lakers in Los Angeles 94-80, on October 30, and they did it more with defense than offense to boot. (Technically, the projections were changed about 10 days earlier than this, but it was not reported out in a Report until now.)

JASON TERRY: J.R SMITH BUT WITHOUT THE OCCASIONAL DISASTER ON AND OFF THE COURT, AND WITHOUT THE BAD COACH WHO HAS J.R. EVEN MORE CONFUSED THAN HE USED TO BE ABOUT HOW TO PLAY






















Just how good are the Mavericks so far? The quickest way to gauge that is too look at offensive and defensive efficiency, the number of points scored and the number given up per 100 possessions. Dallas is the 8th best offensive team so far (108.5 points per 100) and is the 7th best defensive team so far (101.5 points per 100). The Mavericks' balance between offense and defense is as good as it gets; those high and balanced ranks instantly translate into their being a wild-card contender in the Quest for the Ring. (Wild-card contenders are, by Quest definition, the 4th through the 6th most likely teams to win the Quest.)

THE COMPLETE REVERSAL IN THE WEST WITH REGARD TO TEAM DEFENSES
Among possible West Conference contenders for the ring, bad starts on defense have been an epidemic so far this season. One abysmal defensive start was automatic, that of the Phoenix Suns. How terrible Phoenix is on defense is why Phoenix never was and is still NOT a team that Quest for the Ring can consider to be even a long shot contender. Keep in mind that when Phoenix actually did have a chance to win a Ring with a very heavy emphasis on offense, they were no where near as bad as they are so for this year on defense; they were 13th defensively in 2007, but an unqualified 27th at the moment.

Other bad defensive starts have been anything but expected. Despite the supposed upgrade of Emeka Okafor, the Hornets have been so miserable on defense so far that Byron Scott, their beginning of the season, Coach, is fired already. And with mega point guard star Chris Paul out for a month or more beginning in mid-November with a nasty ankle, the Hornets are in danger of dropping out of contention before 2009 is even over (although the Hornets did win a crucial game at home against the flavor the moment Atlanta Hawks the other night in New Orleans.)

Meanwhile, teams that were expected to be all about over weighting offense have started very surprisingly strong on defense so far. The Trailblazers were not at all solid defensively last year, but they are off to a very strong start this season. I do give Nate McMillan credit for that, but there are some things that McMillan is doing with his team that don't make any sense.

During the first 11 games of the season injury unavailability of Pau Gasol, the Lakers ramped up their already great defense to wring out some very tough victories. On the other hand, with no Gasol, the Lakers have been surprisingly bad offensively so far this year.

The Nuggets are chock loaded with raw talent on offense and decently loaded with defensive talent, but as you would really, really for sure know (laugh out loud) if you read Quest for the Ring, they are badly coached and they are off to a surprisingly slow start defensively so far. The Spurs too are off to what for them is a shockingly poor start defensively, although they are coming up somewhat now.

Finally, there are the Mavericks as we have discussed. Last year the Mavericks ended up as only the 17th best defensive team in the NBA, low enough to be vulnerable to losing to the Nuggets in the playoffs regardless of what half-baked strategy the Nuggets might employ. Whereas this year, as we have seen, the Mavericks are off to a very solid 7th best in the NBA defense, to go along with a very powerful offense that, given Rick Carlisle's excellent coaching track record, can probably only get better as the season goes along.

So in conclusion, continue to think that Dallas is not a real threat to challenge the Lakers for the West at your own risk. Because it appears at this early stage that they are a real, plausible threat to upset the Lakers in 2010.

The complete current breakdown:

CONTENDER BREAKDOWN AS OF NOVEMBER 26, 2009
CURRENT MAJOR CONTENDERS
Los Angeles Lakers--Quest Specialization
Cleveland Cavaliers--Quest Specialization
Boston Celtics

CURRENT WILD CARD CONTENDERS
Orlando Magic
Miami Heat
Dallas Mavericks

CURRENT LONG SHOT CONTENDERS
Portland Trailblazers
Denver Nuggets
San Antonio Spurs

Miami for sure and possibly also Orlando or Dallas should really be only long shots. Denver and/or Portland should really be Wild Cards. But simply put, Portland and especially Denver need new coaches to actually contend for the Ring.

Portland would also probably be a Wild Card Contender were it not for the suspect coaching of Nate MacMillan and his staff. (More on this in a later Report.)

Similarly, were it nor for substandard coaching, the Nuggets would be a Wild Card Contender this year as well, and possibly even a major contender, given Carmelo Anthony's strong superstar start and given a truly amazing amount of raw offensive talent that goes just deep enough on the roster to create a true monster of a team on paper, coupled with their decent up front starters and their potential second team surprise defensive superstars Chris Andersen and, were he ever allowed to play, Renaldo Balkman. Unfortunately though, George Karl virtually always underplays front court "reserve" players, in favor of (usually short) reserve point guards.

JASON TERRY ASKS: "DID YOU HEAR THAT, THE MAVERICKS ARE FOR REAL IN 2010!"

















USER GUIDE
The Real Player Rating User Guide is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the following measures. Moreover, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

REGULAR SEASON GAME
NOVEMBER 25, 2009 IN HOUSTON, TX
DALLAS MAVERICKS 130 HOUSTON ROCKETS 99

BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games

MAVERICKS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Jason Terry, SG 1.703
Jose Juan Barea, PG 1.384
Tim Thomas, PF 1.346
Dirk Nowitzki, PF 1.155
Drew Gooden, PF 0.908
Kris Humphries, PF 0.898
Jason Kidd, PG 0.769
Shawn Marion, F 0.374
Rodrigue Beaubois, G 0.348

ROCKETS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Carl Landry, PF 1.121
David Andersen, C 0.857
Luis Scola, PF 0.788
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.731
Chuck Hayes, C 0.411
Shane Battier, SF 0.352
Aaron Brooks, PG 0.124
Kyle Lowry, PG 0.059
Chase Budinger, SF -0.079


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Jason Terry, DAL SG 1.703
Jose Juan Barea, DAL PG 1.384
Tim Thomas, PF DAL 1.346
Dirk Nowitzki, DAL PF 1.155
Carl Landry, HOU PF 1.121
Drew Gooden, DAL PF 0.908
Kris Humphries, DAL PF 0.898
David Andersen, HOU C 0.857
Luis Scola, HOU PF 0.788
Jason Kidd, DAL PG 0.769
Trevor Ariza, HOU SF 0.731
Chuck Hayes, HOU C 0.411
Shawn Marion, DAL F 0.374
Shane Battier, HOU SF 0.352
Rodrigue Beaubois, DAL G 0.348
Aaron Brooks, HOU PG 0.124
Kyle Lowry, HOU PG 0.059
Chase Budinger, HOU SF -0.079

EVALUATION SCALE FOR BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.800 0.899
Very Good Player: A Solid Starter 0.700 0.799
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.600 0.699
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.500 0.599
Satisfactory Role Player 0.425 0.499
Marginal Role Player 0.350 0.424
Poor Player 0.275 0.349
Very Poor Player 0.200 0.274
Extremely Poor Player .199 and less

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REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Basic Real Player Production
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games

MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Jason Terry, SG 54.49
Dirk Nowitzki, PF 41.56
Jose Juan Barea, PG 37.36
Tim Thomas, PF 33.66
Jason Kidd, PG 22.29
Drew Gooden, PF 19.06
Kris Humphries, PF 14.36
Shawn Marion, F 11.61
Rodrigue Beaubois, G 5.92

ROCKETS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Carl Landry, PF 32.52
Trevor Ariza, SF 27.04
Luis Scola, PF 22.07
David Andersen, C 13.71
Shane Battier, SF 9.86
Chuck Hayes, C 6.17
Aaron Brooks, PG 3.36
Kyle Lowry, PG 1.87
Chase Budinger, SF -1.58


COMBINED SORT REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Jason Terry, DAL SG 54.49
Dirk Nowitzki, DAL PF 41.56
Jose Juan Barea, DAL PG 37.36
Tim Thomas, DAL PF 33.66
Carl Landry, HOU PF 32.52
Trevor Ariza, HOU SF 27.04
Jason Kidd, DAL PG 22.29
Luis Scola, HOU PF 22.07
Drew Gooden, DAL PF 19.06
Kris Humphries, DAL PF 14.36
David Andersen, HOU C 13.71
Shawn Marion, DAL F 11.61
Shane Battier, HOU SF 9.86
Chuck Hayes, HOU C 6.17
Rodrigue Beaubois, DAL G 5.92
Aaron Brooks, HOU PG 3.36
Kyle Lowry, HOU PG 1.87
Chase Budinger, HOU SF -1.58

============== SUB RATINGS ==============
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Offensive Plays

MAVERICKS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Jason Terry, SG 1.683
Tim Thomas, PF 1.081
Jose Juan Barea, PG 0.886
Dirk Nowitzki, PF 0.736
Kris Humphries, PF 0.714
Jason Kidd, PG 0.599
Shawn Marion, F 0.303
Drew Gooden, PF 0.239
Rodrigue Beaubois, G 0.166

ROCKETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Carl Landry, PF 0.930
David Andersen, C 0.775
Luis Scola, PF 0.579
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.501
Aaron Brooks, PG 0.310
Shane Battier, SF 0.241
Chuck Hayes, C 0.142
Kyle Lowry, PG 0.112
Chase Budinger, SF -0.176


COMBINED SORT OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Jason Terry, DAL SG 1.683
Tim Thomas, DAL PF 1.081
Carl Landry, HOU PF 0.930
Jose Juan Barea, DAL PG 0.886
David Andersen, HOU C 0.775
Dirk Nowitzki, DAL PF 0.736
Kris Humphries, DAL PF 0.714
Jason Kidd, DAL PG 0.599
Luis Scola, HOU PF 0.579
Trevor Ariza, HOU SF 0.501
Aaron Brooks, HOU PG 0.310
Shawn Marion, DAL F 0.303
Shane Battier, HOU SF 0.241
Drew Gooden, DAL PF 0.239
Rodrigue Beaubois, DAL G 0.166
Chuck Hayes, HOU C 0.142
Kyle Lowry, HOU PG 0.112
Chase Budinger, HOU SF -0.176

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DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Defensive Plays
Does not include hidden defending because procedure is invalid at game level.

MAVERICKS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Drew Gooden, PF 0.669
Jose Juan Barea, PG 0.498
Dirk Nowitzki, PF 0.418
Tim Thomas, PF 0.265
Kris Humphries, PF 0.183
Rodrigue Beaubois, G 0.182
Jason Kidd, PG 0.170
Shawn Marion, F 0.072
Jason Terry, SG 0.019

ROCKETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Chuck Hayes, C 0.269
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.230
Luis Scola, PF 0.209
Carl Landry, PF 0.191
Shane Battier, SF 0.111
Chase Budinger, SF 0.097
David Andersen, C 0.082
Kyle Lowry, PG -0.053
Aaron Brooks, PG -0.185


COMBINED SORT DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Drew Gooden, DAL PF 0.669
Jose Juan Barea, DAL PG 0.498
Dirk Nowitzki, DAL PF 0.418
Chuck Hayes, HOU C 0.269
Tim Thomas, DAL PF 0.265
Trevor Ariza, HOU SF 0.230
Luis Scola, HOU PF 0.209
Carl Landry, HOU PF 0.191
Kris Humphries, DAL PF 0.183
Rodrigue Beaubois, DAL G 0.182
Jason Kidd, DAL PG 0.170
Shane Battier, HOU SF 0.111
Chase Budinger, HOU SF 0.097
David Andersen, HOU C 0.082
Shawn Marion, DAL F 0.072
Jason Terry, DAL SG 0.019
Kyle Lowry, HOU PG -0.053
Aaron Brooks, HOU PG -0.185

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WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REAL ZONE
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.

Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.


A SMALL SAMPLE OF CURRENT AND SOON TO COME QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins

A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALREADY COMPLETED QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense

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2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
Just before the 2009-10 season tipped, the very large number of features and links to important resources were strategically reorganized and placed within an easy to use and clearly labelled section system. So ended the era of the rapidly developed, sprawling and slightly disorganized Quest, and so began the era of the big but under careful control and extremely well organized and professional Quest for the Ring.

The Quest Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into the new sections as of November 2009. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining thing you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.

Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for those who know what they are looking for and wish to find and engage the appropriate link, But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience. The Quest home page is big enough and chock loaded enough that link hunting is not absolutely necessary the way it normally is at many other basketball sites.

THERE MUST BE TEN WAYS TO READ REPORTS [PAUL SIMON LOL]
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MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS

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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
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