Denver can turn out the lights, the basketball party is over. Dikembe Mutombo's inside defense and offensive rebounding, the great 3-point shooting of PG Luther Head and SF Shane Battier, and the Nugget's continuing inability to avoid turning the ball over enough times to make it next to impossible to get a win against a good team, ensured an easy win for the Houston Rockets 108-97.
The truth, if you can handle the truth, is that the hapless Nuggets were handled by the Rockets second string 40 year old center who doesn't score. It was easy, but imagine how much easier still it would have been for the Rockets if Yao Ming, who fractured his right tibia on December 23 and is out 6-8 weeks, had been starting, backed up by Mutombo. Had Ming played, for example, Tracy McGrady could have dished to him for easy layups and forgotten about taking 30 shots, which he took in this game. He led the Rockets offensively with 28 points on 11/30 shooting.
Mutombo, with 22 rebounds, got both his rebounds and those of PF Reggie Evans, who is in George Karl's doghouse because he misses half his free throws and is kind of awkward with his layups. Imagine how little playing time you get on a George Karl team if you are truly bad! Evans was exactly who the Nuggets needed in this game to make things more fair on the boards, so Mutombo had better write a little thank you note to Karl thanking him for setting up his "Oldest Man Ever to Get 20 or More Rebounds Award". And what's next, someone on Social Security torching the stripped down Nuggets roster for a triple double?
Yes, more and more the relevant question is not whether the Nuggets are going to get beat, but how much effort the other team needs to make to capitalize on the Nugget's well known faults and get the almost certain win. If the owner and the general manager are not at least becoming increasingly frustrated, and preferably angry, with George Karl and his team, then there may be no hope for basketball in Denver for years to come. Since life is rarely that cruel, Nuggets fans can hope for a change in coaching for next season and/or a partial blowup of the roster, with many players other than A.I. and Melo heading for other teams in exchange for a new crew for 2007-2008. It's virtually impossible, though, that Melo is going anywhere and extremely unlikely that A.I. is going anywhere. How can things get any worse for the Nuggets in basketball poker if they get several new cards to go along with their two aces, as long as the trades are fair? They can't lose.
The Nuggets never had a chance in this one, what with both Iverson and Melo shooting below their normal accuracy. The Nuggets would have lost unless one of the two pumped in a season best 45 points or so, with accuracy of at least .50 and preferably .60. But Melo is more steady than explosive, and A.I. is not having many games like this in his wise old basketball age. And heck, even Earl Boykins going on a scoring spree would not have pulled this one out.
The Nuggets and probably their season were buried in 3's, as the Rockets went 14-30 from long distance and made the Nuggets pay dearly for J.R. Smith's injury and Coach George Karl's refusal to play DerMarr Johnson, the only 3-point specialist left on the roster. Admittedly, it would have been unlikely for Johnson to have gotten four or five 3's to try to contend with the Rockets, but unlikely is much better than no shot at all.
The Rockets buried the Nuggets in the paint 46-28 and, after the game, George Karl complained that his team took too many jump shots. Maybe a few too many, but Melo, A.I., and the entire NBA has alot of respect for the Rocket's front court of Mutombo, PF Juwan Howard, and SF Shane Battier, let alone Yao Ming. The Rockets are top of the heap when it comes to defending in the paint, and they do it, unlike the Jazz, without much fouling.
Meanwhile, at the other basket, lost in the Rocket's easy win was yet another masterful defensive game from Marcus Camby, who solidified his lead over the rest of the League in blocks, with 7 of them. However, Camby was left completely out of the offense in this one, along with Diawara. Since Karl only played 8 men in total, there were only 6 Nuggets who contributed offensively, which is another part of that scientific formula for losing that the Nuggets have dreamed up. Neither Najera nor Kleiza are ever very explosive offensively, but the Nuggets needed someone besides Melo and A.I. to explode for 20 or more.
By lacking in 3-point shooting and offensive rebouding, but excelling in turnovers and soft jump shot defending, the Nuggets have discovered the perfect formula for losing. These shortcomings guarantee a loss even when they are much more accurate than their opponent, as they were tonight. The Nuggets shot with a .474 accuracy, while the Rockets were only .418. The Rockets hardly care about this, since the forumula from basketball hell the Nuggets are using produces a big gap in shot attempts. In this one, the gap was like the Grand Canyon: the Rockets had 98 shots and the Nuggets 78. It would be extremely rare for a team to be in a game while being out shot to that degree. About the only way for a team that has 98 shots on goal to lose would be if they had to play at least three grandmothers on the court at all times. Think about how disruptive the grannies would be to the flow of the offense.
The last fan thinking that the Nuggets have a great chance in the playoffs threw in the towel after this one, and thoughts now turn to next season, specifically about whether Kenyon Martin will be back full strength or not, about what kind of trade the Nuggets might be able to pull to get rid of players Karl refuses to play, and about whether Karl himself will be returning. But there is another disadvantage of consistently not playing someone at all: that player loses trade value. How can teams be sure of the abilities of Reggie Evans and DerMarr Johnson if they are sitting on the bench all the time?
Can anyone besides me begin to smell that nasty smell of a basketball team beginning to implode and ending up as a major loser in defiance of the dramatic moves of the owner and the front office? Colorado fans, while not as vicious as Philadelphia fans, are not potted plants either. Although they won't get nasty in your face very often, they will move on from the scene of a basketball train wreck, and will not patronize very many games of a losing team just to see a few alley oops performed by Melo and A.I.. They will move on to another sport, and Denver has teams in all 3 of the other major sports for them to move to: baseball, hockey, and football.
So the Nugget's 2006-2007 season grave stone should read: "Here Lies Melo, A.I., and the Nuggets, Who Fooled Many Fans Into Thinking They Would be Contenders but Whose Defense, Turnovers, Inconsistent Offense, Inconsistent Offensive Rebounding, and Coach Caused an Early Death. R.I.P." That would be alot of words so the owner will have to cough up some serious money for engraving for that grave stone. But heck, I'm sure he will want an impressive stone for the basketball graveyard.
Diawara played 17 minutes and was 0/2 and 0/1 on 3's for 0 points. Kleiza played 19 minutes and was 2/4, 2/4 on 3's and 4/4 from the line for 10 points, and he had 5 rebounds and an assist. Najera played 24 minutes and was 5/6 for 10 points, and he had 4 rebounds, 3 assists, and a block.
Blake played 30 minutes and was 6/8 and 2/3 on 3's for 14 points, and he had 6 assists and 6 rebounds. He had a good game but the Nuggets needed someone to have a great game.
Nene played 34 minutes and was 6/9 and 1/1 from the line for 13 points, and he had 8 rebounds and 3 assists.
Camby played for 34 minutes and was 0/2 and 1/2 from the line for 1 point, and he had the 7 blocks, 4 assists, 5 rebounds, and a steal.
A.I. played 39 minutes and was 7/19, 0/1 on 3's, and 5/8 from the line for 19 points, and he added 5 assists and 4 rebounds.
Melo played 39 minutes and was 11/28, 1/6 on 3's, and 7/8 from the line for 30 points, and he added 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, an assist, and a steal.
The next game is Tuesday, March 6 in Denver to play the Hornets at 7 pm mountain time.
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Saturday, March 3, 2007
Thursday, March 1, 2007
Nuggets Use 15 Steals and A.I. Magic in Win Over Magic 111-101
The Orlando Magic, who started off this season better than the Nuggets at 14-5, have fallen faster and harder than the Nuggets, and they have done it with alot of turnovers, personal fouls, and a lack of enough offensive production, both 3-point shooting and overall. The Magic have the reverse problem of the Nuggets. Although they don't have dominant go-to scorers, they have very good role players, such as PG Carlos Arroyo and SF Trevor Aziza, and better than average bench production. They are getting beat by teams with 2 or 3 dominant scorers who run a simple, go inside whenever possible offense. Like the Rockets and Spurs, they defend the perimeter and jump shots in general well, but unlike the Rockets and the Spurs you can beat the Magic at the free throw line by aggressively going to the hoop.
The Nuggets got 62 of their 111 points in the paint and defeated the fading Magic 111-101 in an unusual, relatively easy home win. The Magic had 28 fouls called against them and the Nuggets were 23/31 from the line, wheras Denver committed a modest 18 fouls and the Magic were 14/19 from the line.
The Magic lack anyone who can take over a game and kick it into a very high gear to change momentum and seize a win. Years ago Grant Hill was supposed to become such a player, but his long injury absences and the injuries themselves have reduced his role from what it might have been. Meanwhile, the Nuggets have Allen Iverson, who has a great ability to kick his performance into higher gears, as well as a great ability to pick the best type of shot to emphasize given the opponent and the circumstances of a particular game. More broadly, A.I. can understand the dynamics of a game and play in the best way for the situation, without hardly thinking about it. It was this great knowledge of basketball that made Iverson certain that the Sixers were so far away from becoming a competitive team, that it would be best for him if he demanded changes in the way the Sixers played, and be traded if the Sixers were unable to make changes.
The Nuggets have been losing badly to the dominant teams of the Western Conference due to defensive laziness, too many turnovers, dubious coaching decisions, and a total lack of offensive production from too many players in too many games. The Nuggets have been caught in a vicious circle. After countless roster and lineup changes, A.I., Blake, Melo, and Camby are afraid to feed players who have not produced scoring, but if they don't get the ball, these overlooked players can't produce offensively.
And then there is Coach Mizer on the sidelines, ready to totally bench anyone who doesn't produce and who doesn't look good not producing, which makes for a second vicious circle on top of the first. Despite the fact that the only great 3-point shooter on the Nuggets, J.R. Smith, is out until about March 20 while he heals from knee surgery, three point specialist DerMarr Johnson remains deep benched partly because he missed alot of 3-pointers in a way that struck Karl as reckless, as well as because of questionable defending, which all the Nuggets except Camby are guilty of. Karl's move has left the Nuggets unable to effectively compete with any team that buries alot of threes, which would include all of the top 6 teams in the Western Conference except the Jazz.
But tonight the atoms of the universe must have rearranged themselves because the Nuggets played as if they never have the lack of production problem. For that matter, the Nuggets played as if they haven't had countless lineups; they had an impressive 28 assists. Even more impressive, three Nuggets had at least 6 assists: Iverson, Blake, and Camby. Camby has lately caught flak from some fans about handling the ball too much, but I'll take that kind of ball handling any day of the week.
Kleiza and Najera can be so cold offensively sometimes that you just know they would miss (Kleiza) or not take any shots (Najera) even if the basket was twice as big. But tonight Najera was 8/9 for 17 points and Kleiza was 5/8 for 15. Kleiza put the bandaid on the Nugget's 3-point shooting injury and made 3/6 shots from beyond the arc. Iverson did it Monday night against the Grizzlies. Now if Nene can start burying shots from downtown, I will relax my criticism of Karl's refusal to play Johnson, who prior to this season was a great long shooter and can not emerge from a slump if he doesn't play.
As for the Magic, they are a poor 3-point shooting team, even worse than the Nuggets, though in this game they took advantage of the Nugget's lazy perimeter defense and had one of their better nights of the season from downtown, 9/15.
George Karl, who has become more and more of a mizer with regard to minutes for players who he has soured on, played only 8 players versus the Magic's 11 players. Amazingly, 6 of the 8 scored in double digits, which is as good as it gets when 8 men play. But it was Iverson, the heart of the Nuggets, whose play shouted out to anyone willing to listen that the Nuggets are down but still kicking.
Karl also refused to play rebounding specialist Reggie Evans, so that the Magic outrebounded the Nuggets 44-37 even though both teams shot about .500. But the Nuggets squeaked by the Magic on shots taken 84-80, mostly because of an amazing 15 steals. Iverson, the perennial pickpocket, had 5 steals and Marcus Camby, who has expanded upon his great defensive game to come to the rescue of the Nugget's clunking offense, had 5 big steals as well as the 6 big assists. With all of these steals, the Magic were buried in the turnover department, 25-12. The Nuggets torched the Magic for 32 points off the 25 turnovers.
Melo has been trying to inspire his team off the court, and A.I. is a natural for inspiring his team on it. Between the two of them, the Nuggets might yet be able to make some noise, but unless Kleiza and Najera are going to play like tonight from here out, which is about as likely as the moon exploding, J.R. Smith is going to have to be back burying alot of threes before the Nuggets are competitive, because in pro basketball, you frequently need even more than heart and soul to win.
Diawara played 15 minutes and was 0/3 and 0/2 on 3's for 0 points, and he had 2 rebounds and 2 assists. Blake played 20 minutes and was 0/2 and 0/1 on 3's for 0 points, and he had 6 assists, 2 rebounds, and a steal.
Najera played 24 minutes and was 8/9 and 1/2 from the line for 17 points, and he added 5 rebounds, an assist, a steal, and a block. Kleiza played 28 minutes and was 5/8, 3/6 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 15 points, and he had 3 rebounds and a block.
Nene (what knee problem, but it's probably still sore) played for 36 minutes and was 5/9 and 2/4 from the line for 12 points, and he added 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks, and a steal.
Camby played for 30 minutes and was 3/9 and 4/6 from the line for 10 points, and he added 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 5 steals, and 3 blocks. Camby did not play in the fourth quarter due to a strained calf, but the injury did not appear to be serious.
Melo played for 36 minutes and was 8/19, 0/2 on 3's, and 7/8 from the line for 23 points, and he added 6 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals.
A.I. played for 46 minutes and was 13/25, 1/4 on 3's, and 7/9 from the line for 34 points, and he also had 7 assists, 5 steals, and 4 rebounds.
The next game will be Friday, March 2 in Denver to play the Rockets at 8:30 pm mountain time. The late start is because it is the late game of another one of those cable television double headers.
The Nuggets got 62 of their 111 points in the paint and defeated the fading Magic 111-101 in an unusual, relatively easy home win. The Magic had 28 fouls called against them and the Nuggets were 23/31 from the line, wheras Denver committed a modest 18 fouls and the Magic were 14/19 from the line.
The Magic lack anyone who can take over a game and kick it into a very high gear to change momentum and seize a win. Years ago Grant Hill was supposed to become such a player, but his long injury absences and the injuries themselves have reduced his role from what it might have been. Meanwhile, the Nuggets have Allen Iverson, who has a great ability to kick his performance into higher gears, as well as a great ability to pick the best type of shot to emphasize given the opponent and the circumstances of a particular game. More broadly, A.I. can understand the dynamics of a game and play in the best way for the situation, without hardly thinking about it. It was this great knowledge of basketball that made Iverson certain that the Sixers were so far away from becoming a competitive team, that it would be best for him if he demanded changes in the way the Sixers played, and be traded if the Sixers were unable to make changes.
The Nuggets have been losing badly to the dominant teams of the Western Conference due to defensive laziness, too many turnovers, dubious coaching decisions, and a total lack of offensive production from too many players in too many games. The Nuggets have been caught in a vicious circle. After countless roster and lineup changes, A.I., Blake, Melo, and Camby are afraid to feed players who have not produced scoring, but if they don't get the ball, these overlooked players can't produce offensively.
And then there is Coach Mizer on the sidelines, ready to totally bench anyone who doesn't produce and who doesn't look good not producing, which makes for a second vicious circle on top of the first. Despite the fact that the only great 3-point shooter on the Nuggets, J.R. Smith, is out until about March 20 while he heals from knee surgery, three point specialist DerMarr Johnson remains deep benched partly because he missed alot of 3-pointers in a way that struck Karl as reckless, as well as because of questionable defending, which all the Nuggets except Camby are guilty of. Karl's move has left the Nuggets unable to effectively compete with any team that buries alot of threes, which would include all of the top 6 teams in the Western Conference except the Jazz.
But tonight the atoms of the universe must have rearranged themselves because the Nuggets played as if they never have the lack of production problem. For that matter, the Nuggets played as if they haven't had countless lineups; they had an impressive 28 assists. Even more impressive, three Nuggets had at least 6 assists: Iverson, Blake, and Camby. Camby has lately caught flak from some fans about handling the ball too much, but I'll take that kind of ball handling any day of the week.
Kleiza and Najera can be so cold offensively sometimes that you just know they would miss (Kleiza) or not take any shots (Najera) even if the basket was twice as big. But tonight Najera was 8/9 for 17 points and Kleiza was 5/8 for 15. Kleiza put the bandaid on the Nugget's 3-point shooting injury and made 3/6 shots from beyond the arc. Iverson did it Monday night against the Grizzlies. Now if Nene can start burying shots from downtown, I will relax my criticism of Karl's refusal to play Johnson, who prior to this season was a great long shooter and can not emerge from a slump if he doesn't play.
As for the Magic, they are a poor 3-point shooting team, even worse than the Nuggets, though in this game they took advantage of the Nugget's lazy perimeter defense and had one of their better nights of the season from downtown, 9/15.
George Karl, who has become more and more of a mizer with regard to minutes for players who he has soured on, played only 8 players versus the Magic's 11 players. Amazingly, 6 of the 8 scored in double digits, which is as good as it gets when 8 men play. But it was Iverson, the heart of the Nuggets, whose play shouted out to anyone willing to listen that the Nuggets are down but still kicking.
Karl also refused to play rebounding specialist Reggie Evans, so that the Magic outrebounded the Nuggets 44-37 even though both teams shot about .500. But the Nuggets squeaked by the Magic on shots taken 84-80, mostly because of an amazing 15 steals. Iverson, the perennial pickpocket, had 5 steals and Marcus Camby, who has expanded upon his great defensive game to come to the rescue of the Nugget's clunking offense, had 5 big steals as well as the 6 big assists. With all of these steals, the Magic were buried in the turnover department, 25-12. The Nuggets torched the Magic for 32 points off the 25 turnovers.
Melo has been trying to inspire his team off the court, and A.I. is a natural for inspiring his team on it. Between the two of them, the Nuggets might yet be able to make some noise, but unless Kleiza and Najera are going to play like tonight from here out, which is about as likely as the moon exploding, J.R. Smith is going to have to be back burying alot of threes before the Nuggets are competitive, because in pro basketball, you frequently need even more than heart and soul to win.
Diawara played 15 minutes and was 0/3 and 0/2 on 3's for 0 points, and he had 2 rebounds and 2 assists. Blake played 20 minutes and was 0/2 and 0/1 on 3's for 0 points, and he had 6 assists, 2 rebounds, and a steal.
Najera played 24 minutes and was 8/9 and 1/2 from the line for 17 points, and he added 5 rebounds, an assist, a steal, and a block. Kleiza played 28 minutes and was 5/8, 3/6 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 15 points, and he had 3 rebounds and a block.
Nene (what knee problem, but it's probably still sore) played for 36 minutes and was 5/9 and 2/4 from the line for 12 points, and he added 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks, and a steal.
Camby played for 30 minutes and was 3/9 and 4/6 from the line for 10 points, and he added 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 5 steals, and 3 blocks. Camby did not play in the fourth quarter due to a strained calf, but the injury did not appear to be serious.
Melo played for 36 minutes and was 8/19, 0/2 on 3's, and 7/8 from the line for 23 points, and he added 6 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals.
A.I. played for 46 minutes and was 13/25, 1/4 on 3's, and 7/9 from the line for 34 points, and he also had 7 assists, 5 steals, and 4 rebounds.
The next game will be Friday, March 2 in Denver to play the Rockets at 8:30 pm mountain time. The late start is because it is the late game of another one of those cable television double headers.
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
Nuggets Squeak By Grizzlies 111-107
Alan Iverson brushed the dust off his 3-point shot and made 3/6 of them. Nene and his formerly bum knee played 37 minutes, attacked the hoop with a vengeance, and made 9/12 layups and dunks. Camby produced 13 rebounds, 3 blocks, and enough inside defense against a team that is easy to stop from going inside too much. Najera took and made 3 shots rather than one or none, and Blake made 2 shots rather than none.
George Karl's rotating rotations, the crazy season, and poor rookie shooting has Diawara afraid to shoot at all these days, so he was completely out of the offensive picture. And Kleiza missed just about everything, but he was the only one doing that in this one. Johnson was on the bench all game, so obviously he could not produce anything. Three players producing absolutely nothing offensively was the most the Nuggets could afford in this game, and it beats four players producing absolutely nothing offensively which, believe it or not, has happened fairly often since the first of the year.
Melo had another typical Melo game. He got almost all of his layups and dunks against the weak inside defenders of the Grizzlies, but he missed one jumper too many to make his jump shooting average, finishing 5/14 on those. Melo got 33 points on 13/25 shooting to stay substantially ahead of Arenas and Bryant in the race to be the NBA scoring leader.
G-F Mike Miller went on a tear in the 3rd quarter, making five straight shots, 3 of them being 3-pointers. Iverson, who already had sensed that the Nuggets would probably lose with no 3-point shooting at all, responded brilliantly by making two consecutive, emergency threes 28 seconds apart, thus making up for J.R. Smith being out by dong a J.R. Special on the Grizzlies. And to think that people have the nerve to doubt me when I say that Iverson has become a basketball genius over the years.
So the Nuggets, except for Iverson's 3-pointers, played within their ordinary skill ranges which, to the horror of the coaches and the fans, was just barely good enough to hand a loss to the team that is one of two, (the other one being the Celtics), which loses more games than any team in the League. The Nugget's coaches and fans were in distress throughout the razor tight game. It's no fun being a Nuggets fan these days, because we all have the feeling you get if you buy a used car and you hear a loud, clunking noise coming from the engine a few days after you buy it. The Nuggets have become the Clunkers.
The biggest lead the Nuggets ever managed to get was 9 points, way back early in the 2nd quarter. After that, the Nugget's coaches were frequently thinking in the back of their heads about where they would apply for another job if the Nuggets were to lose this one, fail to make the playoffs, and anger the owner enough to fire them all. Fans were thinking in the back of their heads about how they ever started thinking that Denver could compete with the big boys this season and about which team they would have to switch to if the Nuggets lost most of the rest of their games so that it became impossible to say that you are a Nuggets fan in public without embarrassing yourself.
But the Grizzlies, being gracious Southern gentlemen, seemingly said "Here, have the damn game Nuggets, we're after Oden or Durant in the draft anyhow". They settled for too many jumpers late in the 4th quarter, instead of trying to seize the initiative and get some assistance from the refs by charging the net. Although the Grizzlies successfully depended on outside shooting for most of the game, by getting plenty of open looks against relatively lazy Nuggets defenders, in the end they went to that well once too often. Basketball is not kind to teams that get into a shot selection rut for an entire game.
In crunch time, the Nuggets covered a bit better but, more importantly, the Grizzlies overrelied on high pressure jumpers to fall, which is often a failing strategy in tight games. Even the League's best jump shooters, the Suns, usually try to go to the hoop more late in the 4th quarter of close games. And even poor defensive teams, like the Nuggets, defend jump shots better in the last few minutes of a game. If you miss a layup, you often get a second chance shot, or you get to shoot free throws, so that you can stay close in a tight game. If you miss a jump shot, you usually don't get a second chance. Your opponent gets a chance to pull ahead in a tight game, probably by shooting free throws! Finally, going to the hoop more very late in the game reduces the stress level, reducing the risk of a very costly turnover.
The game was tied 103 each with 3:29 to go and the Nuggets had called for time. I hope, but I can't be sure, that George Karl was warning Melo, Iverson, Camby, Nene, and Blake about avoiding turnovers, lame jumpers, and porous defense, which the Nuggets have used time and time again in these situations to lose games. Meanwhile, on the Memphis sideline was Tony Barone, who was installed as interim coach on December 28 after Mike Fratello was fired by the President of Basketball Operations Jerry West (the Laker great). Barone had been Director of Player Personnel, meaning he has been helping to acquire players rather than coaching them, and so he probably did not instruct his players correctly for the decisive 3 1/2 minutes. Either that or he told them to lose on purpose so the Grizzlies have a better shot at Oden and Durant. Just kidding.
In any event, George Karl, despite continuing to refuse to play the only true 3-point shooter available right now, DerMarr Johnson, was, with the assistance of Iverson's emergency 3-point shots, and a clutch jumper by Blake of all players, able to out coach Barone down the stretch. Thank goodness, at least he can out coach a team that doesn't really have a coach.
The Grizzlies were a very solid 8/19 from beyond the arc while the Nuggets were just 4/11. Besides Iverson's 3/6, Melo shot and made one 3-pointer.
The Nuggets, who have been badly outrebounded since the all-star break by the Spurs, the Jazz, and the Mavericks, had to do better against the Grizzlies, who are the worst rebounding team in the NBA. George Karl, however, tempted fate by playing rebounding specialist Reggie Evans for just 7 minutes. Evans had 2 offensive and 5 total rebounds in just 7 minutes. Had Karl benched Evans for the whole game as he did in Dallas, the Nuggets probably would have lost. The Nuggets had 11 offensive rebounds, 2 fewer than their average but 3 more than the Grizzlies had in this game.
But more evidence that the Nuggets came very close to losing their 5th straight is that Memphis shot .524 versus .494 for Denver and had 3 more shots on goal than the Nuggets did, despite the small Nuggets edge in rebounding.
Anthony drew a foul from Gasol and made both free throws, so it was 105-103Nuggets with 3:18 to go. Then Camby fouled Gasol, who made only one of two free throws. Iverson threw up an "emergency 3-pointer" and missed, Gasol rebounded, but then Camby blocked a Gasol jumper and then Nene rebounded setting up the Iverson dish to Blake for his clutch jumper. The Nuggets led 107-104 with 2:16 left. Then Nene fouled Gasol but he missed both free throws, which is very suspicious given that the Celtics and the Grizzlies are most likely to get Oden and Durant as long as they keep losing. I'm just saying it seems suspicious, but don't quote me. I think I am joking but I am not sure I am joking.
With 1:35 to go, Melo made a running a jumper for 109-104 Nuggets and then Damon Stoudamire made another gift to the desperate for a win Nuggets by hoisting an ill-advised jumper, which was off. After that, everybody on both sides missed. Iverson missed another three and Camby missed a jumper for the Nuggets, while Gasol, Miller, and Gay missed for Memphis, with the Miller and Gay shots being desperation 3-pointers with just a few seconds to go.
To Nuggets fans who have been hammered with way too many losses during the last few weeks, it was a win that seemed kind of shoddy, because it was a squeaker against one of the worst teams in the League that doesn't really have a coach and that did not play intelligent basketball. The Nuggets could have guaranteed themselves a win if they had simply hustled more on defense. Either the Nuggets played down to the level of their opponent, or else they are now on the same level as the Grizzlies, who are 15-43. Either way, it's bad news. Overall, this game seemed more like a meaningless break before the Nuggets and their fans start getting hammered over and over again.
Kleiza played 11 minutes and was 1/6, 0/1 on 3's and 1/2 from the line for 3 points, and he had 2 rebounds. Najera played 16 minutes and was 3/3 and 0/2 from the line for 6 points, and he had 2 rebounds. Diawara played for 21 minutes, took and missed one 3-point shot, and had a steal and an assist.
Steve Blake played 27 minutes and was 2/5, 0/2 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 6 points, and he added 4 assists and 2 rebounds.
Nene played 37 minutes and was 10/16 and 7/9 from the line for 27 points, and he had 9 rebounds, 2 steals, and a block.
Camby played 34 minutes and was 3/6 and 2/2 from the line for 8 points, and he had 13 rebounds, 3 blocks, 4 assists, and 2 steals.
A.I. played 40 minutes and was 7/18, 3/6 on 3's, and 8/9 from the line for 25 points, and he added 9 assists, 5 rebounds, and 2 steals.
Melo played 42 minutes and was 13/25, 1/1 on 3's, and 6/7 from the line for 33 points, and he had 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 steal.
The next game is Wednesday Feb. 28 in Denver versus the Magic at 7 pm mountain time.
George Karl's rotating rotations, the crazy season, and poor rookie shooting has Diawara afraid to shoot at all these days, so he was completely out of the offensive picture. And Kleiza missed just about everything, but he was the only one doing that in this one. Johnson was on the bench all game, so obviously he could not produce anything. Three players producing absolutely nothing offensively was the most the Nuggets could afford in this game, and it beats four players producing absolutely nothing offensively which, believe it or not, has happened fairly often since the first of the year.
Melo had another typical Melo game. He got almost all of his layups and dunks against the weak inside defenders of the Grizzlies, but he missed one jumper too many to make his jump shooting average, finishing 5/14 on those. Melo got 33 points on 13/25 shooting to stay substantially ahead of Arenas and Bryant in the race to be the NBA scoring leader.
G-F Mike Miller went on a tear in the 3rd quarter, making five straight shots, 3 of them being 3-pointers. Iverson, who already had sensed that the Nuggets would probably lose with no 3-point shooting at all, responded brilliantly by making two consecutive, emergency threes 28 seconds apart, thus making up for J.R. Smith being out by dong a J.R. Special on the Grizzlies. And to think that people have the nerve to doubt me when I say that Iverson has become a basketball genius over the years.
So the Nuggets, except for Iverson's 3-pointers, played within their ordinary skill ranges which, to the horror of the coaches and the fans, was just barely good enough to hand a loss to the team that is one of two, (the other one being the Celtics), which loses more games than any team in the League. The Nugget's coaches and fans were in distress throughout the razor tight game. It's no fun being a Nuggets fan these days, because we all have the feeling you get if you buy a used car and you hear a loud, clunking noise coming from the engine a few days after you buy it. The Nuggets have become the Clunkers.
The biggest lead the Nuggets ever managed to get was 9 points, way back early in the 2nd quarter. After that, the Nugget's coaches were frequently thinking in the back of their heads about where they would apply for another job if the Nuggets were to lose this one, fail to make the playoffs, and anger the owner enough to fire them all. Fans were thinking in the back of their heads about how they ever started thinking that Denver could compete with the big boys this season and about which team they would have to switch to if the Nuggets lost most of the rest of their games so that it became impossible to say that you are a Nuggets fan in public without embarrassing yourself.
But the Grizzlies, being gracious Southern gentlemen, seemingly said "Here, have the damn game Nuggets, we're after Oden or Durant in the draft anyhow". They settled for too many jumpers late in the 4th quarter, instead of trying to seize the initiative and get some assistance from the refs by charging the net. Although the Grizzlies successfully depended on outside shooting for most of the game, by getting plenty of open looks against relatively lazy Nuggets defenders, in the end they went to that well once too often. Basketball is not kind to teams that get into a shot selection rut for an entire game.
In crunch time, the Nuggets covered a bit better but, more importantly, the Grizzlies overrelied on high pressure jumpers to fall, which is often a failing strategy in tight games. Even the League's best jump shooters, the Suns, usually try to go to the hoop more late in the 4th quarter of close games. And even poor defensive teams, like the Nuggets, defend jump shots better in the last few minutes of a game. If you miss a layup, you often get a second chance shot, or you get to shoot free throws, so that you can stay close in a tight game. If you miss a jump shot, you usually don't get a second chance. Your opponent gets a chance to pull ahead in a tight game, probably by shooting free throws! Finally, going to the hoop more very late in the game reduces the stress level, reducing the risk of a very costly turnover.
The game was tied 103 each with 3:29 to go and the Nuggets had called for time. I hope, but I can't be sure, that George Karl was warning Melo, Iverson, Camby, Nene, and Blake about avoiding turnovers, lame jumpers, and porous defense, which the Nuggets have used time and time again in these situations to lose games. Meanwhile, on the Memphis sideline was Tony Barone, who was installed as interim coach on December 28 after Mike Fratello was fired by the President of Basketball Operations Jerry West (the Laker great). Barone had been Director of Player Personnel, meaning he has been helping to acquire players rather than coaching them, and so he probably did not instruct his players correctly for the decisive 3 1/2 minutes. Either that or he told them to lose on purpose so the Grizzlies have a better shot at Oden and Durant. Just kidding.
In any event, George Karl, despite continuing to refuse to play the only true 3-point shooter available right now, DerMarr Johnson, was, with the assistance of Iverson's emergency 3-point shots, and a clutch jumper by Blake of all players, able to out coach Barone down the stretch. Thank goodness, at least he can out coach a team that doesn't really have a coach.
The Grizzlies were a very solid 8/19 from beyond the arc while the Nuggets were just 4/11. Besides Iverson's 3/6, Melo shot and made one 3-pointer.
The Nuggets, who have been badly outrebounded since the all-star break by the Spurs, the Jazz, and the Mavericks, had to do better against the Grizzlies, who are the worst rebounding team in the NBA. George Karl, however, tempted fate by playing rebounding specialist Reggie Evans for just 7 minutes. Evans had 2 offensive and 5 total rebounds in just 7 minutes. Had Karl benched Evans for the whole game as he did in Dallas, the Nuggets probably would have lost. The Nuggets had 11 offensive rebounds, 2 fewer than their average but 3 more than the Grizzlies had in this game.
But more evidence that the Nuggets came very close to losing their 5th straight is that Memphis shot .524 versus .494 for Denver and had 3 more shots on goal than the Nuggets did, despite the small Nuggets edge in rebounding.
Anthony drew a foul from Gasol and made both free throws, so it was 105-103Nuggets with 3:18 to go. Then Camby fouled Gasol, who made only one of two free throws. Iverson threw up an "emergency 3-pointer" and missed, Gasol rebounded, but then Camby blocked a Gasol jumper and then Nene rebounded setting up the Iverson dish to Blake for his clutch jumper. The Nuggets led 107-104 with 2:16 left. Then Nene fouled Gasol but he missed both free throws, which is very suspicious given that the Celtics and the Grizzlies are most likely to get Oden and Durant as long as they keep losing. I'm just saying it seems suspicious, but don't quote me. I think I am joking but I am not sure I am joking.
With 1:35 to go, Melo made a running a jumper for 109-104 Nuggets and then Damon Stoudamire made another gift to the desperate for a win Nuggets by hoisting an ill-advised jumper, which was off. After that, everybody on both sides missed. Iverson missed another three and Camby missed a jumper for the Nuggets, while Gasol, Miller, and Gay missed for Memphis, with the Miller and Gay shots being desperation 3-pointers with just a few seconds to go.
To Nuggets fans who have been hammered with way too many losses during the last few weeks, it was a win that seemed kind of shoddy, because it was a squeaker against one of the worst teams in the League that doesn't really have a coach and that did not play intelligent basketball. The Nuggets could have guaranteed themselves a win if they had simply hustled more on defense. Either the Nuggets played down to the level of their opponent, or else they are now on the same level as the Grizzlies, who are 15-43. Either way, it's bad news. Overall, this game seemed more like a meaningless break before the Nuggets and their fans start getting hammered over and over again.
Kleiza played 11 minutes and was 1/6, 0/1 on 3's and 1/2 from the line for 3 points, and he had 2 rebounds. Najera played 16 minutes and was 3/3 and 0/2 from the line for 6 points, and he had 2 rebounds. Diawara played for 21 minutes, took and missed one 3-point shot, and had a steal and an assist.
Steve Blake played 27 minutes and was 2/5, 0/2 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 6 points, and he added 4 assists and 2 rebounds.
Nene played 37 minutes and was 10/16 and 7/9 from the line for 27 points, and he had 9 rebounds, 2 steals, and a block.
Camby played 34 minutes and was 3/6 and 2/2 from the line for 8 points, and he had 13 rebounds, 3 blocks, 4 assists, and 2 steals.
A.I. played 40 minutes and was 7/18, 3/6 on 3's, and 8/9 from the line for 25 points, and he added 9 assists, 5 rebounds, and 2 steals.
Melo played 42 minutes and was 13/25, 1/1 on 3's, and 6/7 from the line for 33 points, and he had 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 steal.
The next game is Wednesday Feb. 28 in Denver versus the Magic at 7 pm mountain time.
Sunday, February 25, 2007
Nuggets Run Into the Great Wall of Dallas 115-95
Playing a back to back road game after a demoralizing thrashing in Denver by the Jazz, the Nuggets flew to Dallas, played hard rather than tired, but too sloppy and not smart enough by pro b-ball standards, and were handled without much difficulty by the team that has so few weaknesses that they give you almost nothing to take advantage of. The Mavericks are an astounding 26-3 at home this season, and they have lost 1 home game (to Detroit on December 7) in the 3 1/2 months since November 8. They have now won 19 straight games at home, including wins over most of the other top teams in the Western Conference. Absolutely no one is beating Avery Johnson's squad in Dallas this year. In fact, almost no one is beating his squad anywhere; the Mavs are an incredible 46-5 overall after starting 0-4. Those Mark Cuban fines did nothing to stop his building the team that has to be the big favorite to win it all this year.
The winningest team in the League went about their business taking advantage of the Nugget's turnovers and porous inside defense, got 56 points in the paint and a nifty .511 field goal percentage, and drove another nail into what may end up being the coffin of the Nugget's playoff hopes and the 2006-2007 season as a whole. The Nugget's turnover gauge was in the red "meltdown" zone again at the end of this one. They had 23 turnovers, although the Mavs had 17, which is worse than their average of 13.
PF Dirk Nowitzki made a respectable 6/16 jumpers and scored 31 points on 10/22 shooting overall, and with 11 rebounds and 8 assists, he came very close to a "triple double". SF Josh Howard, who suffered an ankle sprain Thursday night against the Heat and was questionable, not only played virtually the entire game on his sore ankle, but put on a jump shooting show that was almost as good as Melo's, and finished with 27 points on 12/22 shooting.
When you have forwards like this, you have the luxury of having your center concentrate only on stopping penetration, which is exactly what Mavericks center Erick Dampier did; he produced 7 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 2 steals along with making life miserable for Nuggets wanting to take it to the hoop, particularly Iverson and Nene.
The Mavs average 7/18 from behind the 3-point line but they were so unimpressed by Nene, Camby, and other Denver interior defenders that they decided to bulldoze their way to scores in the paint in this one and were just 4/9 from downtown versus 3/10 for the Nuggets. The problem for the Nuggets here, of course, is that with J.R. Smith recovering from knee surgery, they have no one left who is fully qualified to take 3-point shots except for DerMarr Johnson, who George Karl apparently hates with a passion and refused to play at all for the second straight game no J.R. game.
The Nuggets, who are now fully getting that "we are on the ropes" feeling, came in with a little desperation and alot of attitude on their shoulders. But the Mavericks are the NBA's best in your face team; they can mock you by responding to what you do by doing the same back to you, and then beat you by doing what you can not do. The scrappy Nuggets got 13 steals against the Mavericks, but the Mavs stole it right back 12 times. And both the Mavs and the Nuggets ended up well above their usual number of personal fouls. But the Nuggets also "fouled the refs" and were given three technical fouls, including one handed out to George Karl, who has probably had at least one disturbing dream lately where he saw himself coaching the Grizzlies in Memphis next season.
The Nuggets used that increasing desperation they are feeling to stay in the game through the first half; Dallas was up only 60-56 at the half. During the intermission, there must have been some fighting words in the locker room and the Nuggets plotted what would have been a stunning upset. But they had 7 turnovers in the 3rd quarter, including 3 offensive fouls and a Melo travel. These are the kinds of turnovers you get when you are kind of desperate and in too much of a rush to get your points. The referees normally do not permit players to get sloppy on execution just because they are getting desperate for a win and think they can pull a stunning upset.
The Nuggets have now lost 18 of their last 19 games in Dallas over the last decade. Maybe next year the League will allow the Nuggets to play in Dallas after a rest to give them a chance for their first win there since the Clinton administration. Both games this year were back to backs for Denver but not for Dallas.
Not only did George Karl refuse to play DerMarr Johnson again, but for some unknown reason refused to play Reggie Evans, who gets more offensive rebounds per minute than folks like Tyson Chandler, Emeka Okafor, and Ben Wallace. True, some of those rebounds are so that he can stuff in his own missed layup, but so what? The Nuggets need his layups, too. With Evans stuck on the bench all night, the Nuggets had a pathetic 6 offensive rebounds, versus 11 for the Mavs, and had just 75 shot attempts versus 88 for the Mavs. Benching Evans was worse than shooting yourself in the foot, it was shooting yourself in the head.
So like a bank robber who can't stop with just one heist, Karl committed a multiple felony benching in this one: he had two players sitting on the bench the whole night who were badly needed to give the Nuggets a chance to win the game. I am afraid that it's time to put Rick Adelman's number on the speed dials at Nuggets headquarters.
Kleiza played 21 minutes and was 1/6, 1/3 on 3's and 4/4 from the line for 7 points, and he had 2 rebounds and a steal. Diawara played 21 minutes and was 1/5, 0/3 on 3's and 1/3 from the line for 3 points. Najera played 26 minutes and was 3/7 for 6 points, and he added 3 rebounds, 2 steals, an assist, and a block.
Steve Blake played 25 minutes and was 0/2 and 1/2 from the line for 1 point, and he had 4 assists and 2 rebounds.
Nene played 23 minutes and was 4/8 for 8 points, and he had 3 rebounds, an assist, and a steal.
Camby played 36 minutes and was 2/6 and 6/7 from the line for 10 points, and he had 17 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 steals, and 2 blocks. Camby missed a "triple double" by just 3 assists. Camby seems to play his best against the best teams, a fact which fans should keep in mind if the Nuggets can get their act together and make it into the playoffs.
A.I. played 43 minutes and was 8/18, 2/4 on 3's, and 8/9 from the line for 26 points, and he had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, and a block. He was an excellent 8/14 on jumpers.
Melo played for 41 minutes and was 14/23 and 6/8 from the line for 34 points, and he also had 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals. He was an excellent 7/12 on jumpers.
The next game will be Monday, Feb. 26 in Memphis to play the Grizzlies at 6 pm mountain time.
The winningest team in the League went about their business taking advantage of the Nugget's turnovers and porous inside defense, got 56 points in the paint and a nifty .511 field goal percentage, and drove another nail into what may end up being the coffin of the Nugget's playoff hopes and the 2006-2007 season as a whole. The Nugget's turnover gauge was in the red "meltdown" zone again at the end of this one. They had 23 turnovers, although the Mavs had 17, which is worse than their average of 13.
PF Dirk Nowitzki made a respectable 6/16 jumpers and scored 31 points on 10/22 shooting overall, and with 11 rebounds and 8 assists, he came very close to a "triple double". SF Josh Howard, who suffered an ankle sprain Thursday night against the Heat and was questionable, not only played virtually the entire game on his sore ankle, but put on a jump shooting show that was almost as good as Melo's, and finished with 27 points on 12/22 shooting.
When you have forwards like this, you have the luxury of having your center concentrate only on stopping penetration, which is exactly what Mavericks center Erick Dampier did; he produced 7 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 2 steals along with making life miserable for Nuggets wanting to take it to the hoop, particularly Iverson and Nene.
The Mavs average 7/18 from behind the 3-point line but they were so unimpressed by Nene, Camby, and other Denver interior defenders that they decided to bulldoze their way to scores in the paint in this one and were just 4/9 from downtown versus 3/10 for the Nuggets. The problem for the Nuggets here, of course, is that with J.R. Smith recovering from knee surgery, they have no one left who is fully qualified to take 3-point shots except for DerMarr Johnson, who George Karl apparently hates with a passion and refused to play at all for the second straight game no J.R. game.
The Nuggets, who are now fully getting that "we are on the ropes" feeling, came in with a little desperation and alot of attitude on their shoulders. But the Mavericks are the NBA's best in your face team; they can mock you by responding to what you do by doing the same back to you, and then beat you by doing what you can not do. The scrappy Nuggets got 13 steals against the Mavericks, but the Mavs stole it right back 12 times. And both the Mavs and the Nuggets ended up well above their usual number of personal fouls. But the Nuggets also "fouled the refs" and were given three technical fouls, including one handed out to George Karl, who has probably had at least one disturbing dream lately where he saw himself coaching the Grizzlies in Memphis next season.
The Nuggets used that increasing desperation they are feeling to stay in the game through the first half; Dallas was up only 60-56 at the half. During the intermission, there must have been some fighting words in the locker room and the Nuggets plotted what would have been a stunning upset. But they had 7 turnovers in the 3rd quarter, including 3 offensive fouls and a Melo travel. These are the kinds of turnovers you get when you are kind of desperate and in too much of a rush to get your points. The referees normally do not permit players to get sloppy on execution just because they are getting desperate for a win and think they can pull a stunning upset.
The Nuggets have now lost 18 of their last 19 games in Dallas over the last decade. Maybe next year the League will allow the Nuggets to play in Dallas after a rest to give them a chance for their first win there since the Clinton administration. Both games this year were back to backs for Denver but not for Dallas.
Not only did George Karl refuse to play DerMarr Johnson again, but for some unknown reason refused to play Reggie Evans, who gets more offensive rebounds per minute than folks like Tyson Chandler, Emeka Okafor, and Ben Wallace. True, some of those rebounds are so that he can stuff in his own missed layup, but so what? The Nuggets need his layups, too. With Evans stuck on the bench all night, the Nuggets had a pathetic 6 offensive rebounds, versus 11 for the Mavs, and had just 75 shot attempts versus 88 for the Mavs. Benching Evans was worse than shooting yourself in the foot, it was shooting yourself in the head.
So like a bank robber who can't stop with just one heist, Karl committed a multiple felony benching in this one: he had two players sitting on the bench the whole night who were badly needed to give the Nuggets a chance to win the game. I am afraid that it's time to put Rick Adelman's number on the speed dials at Nuggets headquarters.
Kleiza played 21 minutes and was 1/6, 1/3 on 3's and 4/4 from the line for 7 points, and he had 2 rebounds and a steal. Diawara played 21 minutes and was 1/5, 0/3 on 3's and 1/3 from the line for 3 points. Najera played 26 minutes and was 3/7 for 6 points, and he added 3 rebounds, 2 steals, an assist, and a block.
Steve Blake played 25 minutes and was 0/2 and 1/2 from the line for 1 point, and he had 4 assists and 2 rebounds.
Nene played 23 minutes and was 4/8 for 8 points, and he had 3 rebounds, an assist, and a steal.
Camby played 36 minutes and was 2/6 and 6/7 from the line for 10 points, and he had 17 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 steals, and 2 blocks. Camby missed a "triple double" by just 3 assists. Camby seems to play his best against the best teams, a fact which fans should keep in mind if the Nuggets can get their act together and make it into the playoffs.
A.I. played 43 minutes and was 8/18, 2/4 on 3's, and 8/9 from the line for 26 points, and he had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, and a block. He was an excellent 8/14 on jumpers.
Melo played for 41 minutes and was 14/23 and 6/8 from the line for 34 points, and he also had 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals. He was an excellent 7/12 on jumpers.
The next game will be Monday, Feb. 26 in Memphis to play the Grizzlies at 6 pm mountain time.
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TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT HOW LONG QUEST FOR THE RING HAS BEEN KEEPING IT REAL
The above shows you in two different ways the exact amount of time since The Quest for the Ring began to completely explain how the Quest is won, while having as much fun as possible at the expense of basketball pretenders and player haters. The first panel shows how long it has been in each of seven units. The second panel shows how long it has been in the more usual "remainder" way.
QUEST FOR THE RING SOMETIMES GOES INTO HIATUS
Regardless of any temporary unavoidable absences, the Quest is in this project to explain in detail for the very long term--indefinitely, for many, many, many years ahead. At this writing we have the equivalent of 15 basketball books under our belt and we plan on doing dozens more. Count on us being right where basketball is at, which is here, actually.
QUEST FOR THE RING SOMETIMES GOES INTO HIATUS
Regardless of any temporary unavoidable absences, the Quest is in this project to explain in detail for the very long term--indefinitely, for many, many, many years ahead. At this writing we have the equivalent of 15 basketball books under our belt and we plan on doing dozens more. Count on us being right where basketball is at, which is here, actually.
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QUEST REPORTS #41 TO #60, GOING BACK IN TIME
QUEST IS FREE BUT ABOUT 3 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME CAN GET YOU MORE OF IT
Although there is a guaranteed minimum rate of Report production regardless of traffic, it is in your power to help increase the number of and frequency of Quest Reports. All Quest sites are developed and produced according to both superseding criteria and site traffic. Like all sites started in recent years, Quest receives very little help from Google and other search engines. The search engines mostly serve to keep the older, popular sites popular; they preserve the same old, same old status quo.
The amount of reporting and the frequency of Quest Reports could easily be double what it is were site traffic higher. If Quest obtained the traffic we know it deserves, than production would go from the equivalent of roughly three books about basketball a year to at least five and to as many as six books a year!
WE NEED A GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT 3 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME
Please take three or four minutes every now and then to recommend Quest and post links to Quest on your favorite sports and other sites. In other words, wherever possible use us to back up what you are posting and writing. The resulting automatic increase of traffic will in turn increase the resources that go in to producing Quest home page Reports. After helping us, feel free to e-mail how you helped and we will throw some Internet love back to your Internet hangout. The email address is thequestforthering1. This is a gmail address, so you use @gmail.com after that address.
The amount of reporting and the frequency of Quest Reports could easily be double what it is were site traffic higher. If Quest obtained the traffic we know it deserves, than production would go from the equivalent of roughly three books about basketball a year to at least five and to as many as six books a year!
WE NEED A GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT 3 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME
Please take three or four minutes every now and then to recommend Quest and post links to Quest on your favorite sports and other sites. In other words, wherever possible use us to back up what you are posting and writing. The resulting automatic increase of traffic will in turn increase the resources that go in to producing Quest home page Reports. After helping us, feel free to e-mail how you helped and we will throw some Internet love back to your Internet hangout. The email address is thequestforthering1. This is a gmail address, so you use @gmail.com after that address.
QUEST FOR THE RING USER GUIDE
QUEST FOR THE RING USER GUIDE: YOU CAN QUICKLY LOCATE AND GET THE SITE INFORMATION YOU NEED OR WANT RIGHT HERE
LATEST 25 REPORTS THREE AT A TIME -- TO LOAD THE NEXT THREE, CLICK ">" AT THE TOP ON THE RIGHT
QUEST REPORTS #61 TO #80, GOING BACK IN TIME
WORD IS BOND
WELCOME TO THE QUEST--THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT HERE
WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REAL ZONE
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.
WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.
Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.
A SMALL SAMPLE OF CURRENT AND SOON TO COME QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins
A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALREADY COMPLETED QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense
UNIQUE SITE DESIGN
The Quest is organized in a completely different way from what you are used to on the internet. We have combined the best features of the blog and the conventional web site formats, the latter being the norm for large organizations. However, since we do not like the idea of using flash to "wow" visitors, we do not use flash except within video and other discrete components. So we are state of the art in terms of expanding the power of visitors to get exactly what they want very quickly, but we do not have the latest flash gadgetry just to "keep up with the Joneses". More broadly, you will find that Quest for the Ring never seeks to keep up with the Joneses, simply because the Joneses never had the nerve and the intelligence to do what we do.
2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
Just before the 2009-10 season tipped, the very large number of features and links to important resources were strategically reorganized and placed within an easy to use and clearly labelled section system. So ended the era of the rapidly developed, sprawling and slightly disorganized Quest, and so began the era of the big but under careful control and extremely well organized and professional Quest for the Ring.
The Quest Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into the new sections as of November 2009. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining thing you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.
Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for those who know what they are looking for and wish to find and engage the appropriate link, But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience. The Quest home page is big enough and chock loaded enough that link hunting is not absolutely necessary the way it normally is at many other basketball sites.
THERE MUST BE TEN WAYS TO READ REPORTS [PAUL SIMON LOL]
There are close to ten ways to find out about, select, and read Quest Reports! The standard, traditional blog presentation is available as one of the many ways to choose, access, and read reports. On the Home Page, only one report loads in the traditional format in order to keep this page as quick loading as possible.
See the "Total Freedom of Navigation" section for complete details about how to find, choose, and read reports.
One key place to find Older Reports is on sequentially numbered url's thequestforthering2.blogspot.com, thequestforthering3.blogspot.com, and so forth.
THE QUEST USER GUIDE VERSUS an about page
Other sites most often have undeveloped and limited in scope "about pages" which is usually all they have for what we call a "User Guide". Our User Guide material is a vast improvement, quantitatively and qualitatively, over a mere "about page" While many other sites don't help their visitors to make the best use of the content, we do. Also, the User Guide is chock loaded with invitations to visitors to participate in all kinds of ways, including for example advertising for free, link exchange, and getting a team site supported by Quest.
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.
WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.
Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.
A SMALL SAMPLE OF CURRENT AND SOON TO COME QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins
A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALREADY COMPLETED QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense
UNIQUE SITE DESIGN
The Quest is organized in a completely different way from what you are used to on the internet. We have combined the best features of the blog and the conventional web site formats, the latter being the norm for large organizations. However, since we do not like the idea of using flash to "wow" visitors, we do not use flash except within video and other discrete components. So we are state of the art in terms of expanding the power of visitors to get exactly what they want very quickly, but we do not have the latest flash gadgetry just to "keep up with the Joneses". More broadly, you will find that Quest for the Ring never seeks to keep up with the Joneses, simply because the Joneses never had the nerve and the intelligence to do what we do.
2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
Just before the 2009-10 season tipped, the very large number of features and links to important resources were strategically reorganized and placed within an easy to use and clearly labelled section system. So ended the era of the rapidly developed, sprawling and slightly disorganized Quest, and so began the era of the big but under careful control and extremely well organized and professional Quest for the Ring.
The Quest Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into the new sections as of November 2009. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining thing you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.
Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for those who know what they are looking for and wish to find and engage the appropriate link, But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience. The Quest home page is big enough and chock loaded enough that link hunting is not absolutely necessary the way it normally is at many other basketball sites.
THERE MUST BE TEN WAYS TO READ REPORTS [PAUL SIMON LOL]
There are close to ten ways to find out about, select, and read Quest Reports! The standard, traditional blog presentation is available as one of the many ways to choose, access, and read reports. On the Home Page, only one report loads in the traditional format in order to keep this page as quick loading as possible.
See the "Total Freedom of Navigation" section for complete details about how to find, choose, and read reports.
One key place to find Older Reports is on sequentially numbered url's thequestforthering2.blogspot.com, thequestforthering3.blogspot.com, and so forth.
THE QUEST USER GUIDE VERSUS an about page
Other sites most often have undeveloped and limited in scope "about pages" which is usually all they have for what we call a "User Guide". Our User Guide material is a vast improvement, quantitatively and qualitatively, over a mere "about page" While many other sites don't help their visitors to make the best use of the content, we do. Also, the User Guide is chock loaded with invitations to visitors to participate in all kinds of ways, including for example advertising for free, link exchange, and getting a team site supported by Quest.
SEARCH THE QUEST FOR THE RING, THE EQUIVALENT OF MORE THAN 15 BOOKS ABOUT BASKETBALL
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SEARCH THE 15 BOOKS / 1.5 MILLION WORDSQUEST REPORTS #81 TO #100 GOING BACK IN TIME
VIDEOS
QUEST FOR THE RING VIDEOS--The primary Quest video page with video juke boxes for all 30 teams
QUEST FOR THE RING VIDEOS #2--Specially chosen video juke boxes and individual videos
QUEST FOR THE RING PRIMARY HOME PAGE B--A few key video players are here
LATEST NBA.COM NBA VIDEOS
LATEST YAHOO SPORTS NBA / BASKETBALL VIDEOS
LATEST CBS SPORTSLINE NBA VIDEOS
QUEST FOR THE RING VIDEOS #2--Specially chosen video juke boxes and individual videos
QUEST FOR THE RING PRIMARY HOME PAGE B--A few key video players are here
LATEST NBA.COM NBA VIDEOS
LATEST YAHOO SPORTS NBA / BASKETBALL VIDEOS
LATEST CBS SPORTSLINE NBA VIDEOS
MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Note: This is generally a once a year, end of season Report. For many teams and players, more recent ratings are often available.
NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.
TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards
POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less
NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112
HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005
SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903
STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820
VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700
GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642
SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582
MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520
POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460
VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406
EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.
REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
The above are a few hightlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.
TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards
POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less
NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112
HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005
SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903
STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820
VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700
GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642
SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582
MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520
POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460
VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406
EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.
REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
The above are a few hightlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
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