TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
TORONTO RAPTORS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to JOSE CALDERON who leads the Raptors in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to JOSE CALDERON who has produced more than any other player on the Raptors so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
JOSE CALDERON
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Joey Dorsey
Amir Johnson
Julian Wright
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
None
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
None
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
Linas Kleiza (Injury)
Jarrett Jack (Traded)
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 4
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Jose Calderon
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Joey Dorsey
TORONTO RAPTORS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Minnesota Timberwolves)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Jose Calderon 0.914
Joey Dorsey 0.866
Amir Johnson 0.851
Julian Wright 0.821
Jerryd Bayless 0.686
Leandro Barbosa 0.685
Reggie Evans 0.684
Ed Davis 0.657
Andrea Bargnani 0.616
Jarrett Jack 0.613
Linas Kleiza 0.529
DeMar DeRozan 0.497
Sonny Weems 0.446
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will generally not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
TORONTO RAPTORS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Minnesota Timberwolves)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Jose Calderon 1229.43
Amir Johnson 1130.88
Andrea Bargnani 984.99
DeMar DeRozan 857.98
Leandro Barbosa 561.65
Linas Kleiza 545.78
Julian Wright 501.68
Ed Davis 481.25
Jerryd Bayless 446.88
Sonny Weems 388.43
Joey Dorsey 317.06
Reggie Evans 279.66
Jarrett Jack 212.80
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
TORONTO RAPTORS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Minnesota Timberwolves)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Jose Calderon 0.691
Amir Johnson 0.512
Jerryd Bayless 0.501
Leandro Barbosa 0.482
Andrea Bargnani 0.422
Jarrett Jack 0.414
Ed Davis 0.359
DeMar DeRozan 0.346
Sonny Weems 0.327
Julian Wright 0.289
Linas Kleiza 0.264
Joey Dorsey 0.252
Reggie Evans 0.216
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
TORONTO RAPTORS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Minnesota Timberwolves)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Joey Dorsey 0.615
Julian Wright 0.532
Reggie Evans 0.468
Amir Johnson 0.339
Ed Davis 0.298
Linas Kleiza 0.265
Jose Calderon 0.223
Leandro Barbosa 0.203
Jarrett Jack 0.199
Andrea Bargnani 0.195
Jerryd Bayless 0.185
DeMar DeRozan 0.150
Sonny Weems 0.119
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
Saturday, February 12, 2011
Friday, February 11, 2011
Minnesota Timberwolves Real Player Ratings as of February 5, 2011
TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to KEVIN LOVE who leads the Timberwolves in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to KEVIN LOVE who has produced more than any other player on the Timberwolves so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
KEVIN LOVE
SUPER STARS
None
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Luke Ridnour
Anthony Tolliver
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Michael Beasley
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now.
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 4
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Kevin Love
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Anthony Tolliver
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Kevin Love 1.096
Luke Ridnour 0.800
Anthony Tolliver 0.786
Michael Beasley 0.737
Darko Milicic 0.631
Corey Brewer 0.617
Jonny Flynn 0.524
Martell Webster 0.511
Wesley Johnson 0.496
Sebastian Telfair 0.486
Nikola Pekovic 0.441
Wayne Ellington 0.386
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will generally not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Kevin Love 1972.31
Michael Beasley 1079.80
Luke Ridnour 1002.92
Corey Brewer 743.41
Darko Milicic 735.66
Wesley Johnson 641.87
Anthony Tolliver 460.79
Martell Webster 299.44
Sebastian Telfair 286.54
Jonny Flynn 224.81
Wayne Ellington 196.33
Nikola Pekovic 193.43
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Kevin Love 0.662
Luke Ridnour 0.575
Michael Beasley 0.472
Sebastian Telfair 0.382
Wesley Johnson 0.319
Martell Webster 0.302
Anthony Tolliver 0.283
Wayne Ellington 0.261
Darko Milicic 0.258
Corey Brewer 0.254
Nikola Pekovic 0.240
Jonny Flynn 0.184
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Anthony Tolliver 0.504
Kevin Love 0.434
Darko Milicic 0.373
Corey Brewer 0.363
Jonny Flynn 0.340
Michael Beasley 0.264
Luke Ridnour 0.226
Martell Webster 0.209
Nikola Pekovic 0.201
Wesley Johnson 0.178
Wayne Ellington 0.126
Sebastian Telfair 0.105
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to KEVIN LOVE who leads the Timberwolves in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to KEVIN LOVE who has produced more than any other player on the Timberwolves so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
KEVIN LOVE
SUPER STARS
None
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Luke Ridnour
Anthony Tolliver
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Michael Beasley
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now.
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 4
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Kevin Love
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Anthony Tolliver
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Kevin Love 1.096
Luke Ridnour 0.800
Anthony Tolliver 0.786
Michael Beasley 0.737
Darko Milicic 0.631
Corey Brewer 0.617
Jonny Flynn 0.524
Martell Webster 0.511
Wesley Johnson 0.496
Sebastian Telfair 0.486
Nikola Pekovic 0.441
Wayne Ellington 0.386
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will generally not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Kevin Love 1972.31
Michael Beasley 1079.80
Luke Ridnour 1002.92
Corey Brewer 743.41
Darko Milicic 735.66
Wesley Johnson 641.87
Anthony Tolliver 460.79
Martell Webster 299.44
Sebastian Telfair 286.54
Jonny Flynn 224.81
Wayne Ellington 196.33
Nikola Pekovic 193.43
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Kevin Love 0.662
Luke Ridnour 0.575
Michael Beasley 0.472
Sebastian Telfair 0.382
Wesley Johnson 0.319
Martell Webster 0.302
Anthony Tolliver 0.283
Wayne Ellington 0.261
Darko Milicic 0.258
Corey Brewer 0.254
Nikola Pekovic 0.240
Jonny Flynn 0.184
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Toronto Raptors)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Anthony Tolliver 0.504
Kevin Love 0.434
Darko Milicic 0.373
Corey Brewer 0.363
Jonny Flynn 0.340
Michael Beasley 0.264
Luke Ridnour 0.226
Martell Webster 0.209
Nikola Pekovic 0.201
Wesley Johnson 0.178
Wayne Ellington 0.126
Sebastian Telfair 0.105
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
Thursday, February 10, 2011
Denver Nuggets Real Player Ratings as of February 5, 2011
TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
DENVER NUGGETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to NENE HILARIO who leads the Nuggets in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to CARMELO ANTHONY who has produced more than any other player on the Nuggets so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
NENE
CARMELO ANTHONY
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Chauncey Billups
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Kenyon Martin
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Chris Andersen
J.R. Smith
Ty Lawson
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 7
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Chauncey Billups
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Chris Andersen
DENVER NUGGETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Nene Hilario 0.980
Carmelo Anthony 0.964
Chauncey Billups 0.881
Kenyon Martin 0.800
Chris Andersen 0.759
J.R. Smith 0.758
Ty Lawson 0.701
Shelden Williams 0.698
Arron Afflalo 0.674
Al Harrington 0.629
Gary Forbes 0.448
Melvin Ely 0.440
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will generally not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
DENVER NUGGETS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Carmelo Anthony 1457.13
Nene Hilario 1353.95
Chauncey Billups 1292.87
Arron Afflalo 1186.79
J.R. Smith 872.88
Ty Lawson 816.26
Al Harrington 708.06
Shelden Williams 494.26
Kenyon Martin 317.69
Chris Andersen 245.88
Gary Forbes 225.28
Melvin Ely 150.16
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
DENVER NUGGETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Chauncey Billups 0.596
Ty Lawson 0.584
Nene Hilario 0.559
Carmelo Anthony 0.538
Arron Afflalo 0.430
J.R. Smith 0.418
Al Harrington 0.363
Kenyon Martin 0.336
Gary Forbes 0.329
Shelden Williams 0.264
Melvin Ely 0.214
Chris Andersen 0.202
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
DENVER NUGGETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Chris Andersen 0.557
Kenyon Martin 0.464
Shelden Williams 0.434
Carmelo Anthony 0.426
Nene Hilario 0.421
J.R. Smith 0.340
Chauncey Billups 0.284
Al Harrington 0.265
Arron Afflalo 0.244
Melvin Ely 0.227
Gary Forbes 0.119
Ty Lawson 0.118
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
DENVER NUGGETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to NENE HILARIO who leads the Nuggets in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to CARMELO ANTHONY who has produced more than any other player on the Nuggets so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
NENE
CARMELO ANTHONY
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Chauncey Billups
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Kenyon Martin
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Chris Andersen
J.R. Smith
Ty Lawson
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 7
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Chauncey Billups
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Chris Andersen
DENVER NUGGETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Nene Hilario 0.980
Carmelo Anthony 0.964
Chauncey Billups 0.881
Kenyon Martin 0.800
Chris Andersen 0.759
J.R. Smith 0.758
Ty Lawson 0.701
Shelden Williams 0.698
Arron Afflalo 0.674
Al Harrington 0.629
Gary Forbes 0.448
Melvin Ely 0.440
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will generally not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
DENVER NUGGETS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Carmelo Anthony 1457.13
Nene Hilario 1353.95
Chauncey Billups 1292.87
Arron Afflalo 1186.79
J.R. Smith 872.88
Ty Lawson 816.26
Al Harrington 708.06
Shelden Williams 494.26
Kenyon Martin 317.69
Chris Andersen 245.88
Gary Forbes 225.28
Melvin Ely 150.16
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
DENVER NUGGETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Chauncey Billups 0.596
Ty Lawson 0.584
Nene Hilario 0.559
Carmelo Anthony 0.538
Arron Afflalo 0.430
J.R. Smith 0.418
Al Harrington 0.363
Kenyon Martin 0.336
Gary Forbes 0.329
Shelden Williams 0.264
Melvin Ely 0.214
Chris Andersen 0.202
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
DENVER NUGGETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 4 game against the Utah Jazz)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Chris Andersen 0.557
Kenyon Martin 0.464
Shelden Williams 0.434
Carmelo Anthony 0.426
Nene Hilario 0.421
J.R. Smith 0.340
Chauncey Billups 0.284
Al Harrington 0.265
Arron Afflalo 0.244
Melvin Ely 0.227
Gary Forbes 0.119
Ty Lawson 0.118
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
Wednesday, February 9, 2011
Dallas Mavericks Real Player Ratings as of February 3, 2011
TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
DALLAS MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 3, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to DIRK NOWITZKI who leads the Mavericks in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to DIRK NOWITZKI who has produced more than any other player on the Mavericks so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
DIRK NOWITZKI
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
JASON KIDD
TYSON CHANDLER
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Caron Butler
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Jason Terry
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Jose Barea
Shawn Marion
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
Caron Butler (Injury)
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 6
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Dirk Nowitzki
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Dirk Nowitzki
DALLAS MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Dirk Nowitzki 1.187
Jason Kidd 0.960
Tyson Chandler 0.933
Caron Butler 0.834
Jason Terry 0.807
Jose Barea 0.726
Shawn Marion 0.707
DeShawn Stevenson 0.676
Brendan Haywood 0.531
Brian Cardinal 0.476
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
DALLAS MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Dirk Nowitzki 1597.41
Jason Kidd 1545.18
Jason Terry 1252.31
Tyson Chandler 1176.16
Shawn Marion 916.28
Caron Butler 723.34
Jose Barea 703.38
DeShawn Stevenson 570.07
Brendan Haywood 432.44
Brian Cardinal 182.80
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
DALLAS MAVERICKS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Dirk Nowitzki 0.645
Jason Kidd 0.530
Jason Terry 0.503
Jose Barea 0.489
Tyson Chandler 0.403
DeShawn Stevenson 0.400
Caron Butler 0.374
Shawn Marion 0.357
Brian Cardinal 0.296
Brendan Haywood 0.115
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
DALLAS MAVERICKS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Dirk Nowitzki 0.542
Tyson Chandler 0.531
Caron Butler 0.461
Jason Kidd 0.430
Brendan Haywood 0.416
Shawn Marion 0.350
Jason Terry 0.305
DeShawn Stevenson 0.276
Jose Barea 0.237
Brian Cardinal 0.180
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
DALLAS MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 3, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to DIRK NOWITZKI who leads the Mavericks in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to DIRK NOWITZKI who has produced more than any other player on the Mavericks so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
DIRK NOWITZKI
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
JASON KIDD
TYSON CHANDLER
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Caron Butler
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Jason Terry
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Jose Barea
Shawn Marion
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
Caron Butler (Injury)
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 6
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Dirk Nowitzki
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Dirk Nowitzki
DALLAS MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Dirk Nowitzki 1.187
Jason Kidd 0.960
Tyson Chandler 0.933
Caron Butler 0.834
Jason Terry 0.807
Jose Barea 0.726
Shawn Marion 0.707
DeShawn Stevenson 0.676
Brendan Haywood 0.531
Brian Cardinal 0.476
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
DALLAS MAVERICKS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Dirk Nowitzki 1597.41
Jason Kidd 1545.18
Jason Terry 1252.31
Tyson Chandler 1176.16
Shawn Marion 916.28
Caron Butler 723.34
Jose Barea 703.38
DeShawn Stevenson 570.07
Brendan Haywood 432.44
Brian Cardinal 182.80
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
DALLAS MAVERICKS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Dirk Nowitzki 0.645
Jason Kidd 0.530
Jason Terry 0.503
Jose Barea 0.489
Tyson Chandler 0.403
DeShawn Stevenson 0.400
Caron Butler 0.374
Shawn Marion 0.357
Brian Cardinal 0.296
Brendan Haywood 0.115
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
DALLAS MAVERICKS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New York Knicks)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Dirk Nowitzki 0.542
Tyson Chandler 0.531
Caron Butler 0.461
Jason Kidd 0.430
Brendan Haywood 0.416
Shawn Marion 0.350
Jason Terry 0.305
DeShawn Stevenson 0.276
Jose Barea 0.237
Brian Cardinal 0.180
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
Tuesday, February 8, 2011
New Orleans Hornets Real Player Ratings as of February 4, 2011
TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 4, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to CHRIS PAUL who leads the Hornets in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to CHRIS PAUL who has produced more than any other player on the Hornets so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
CHRIS PAUL
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
DAVID WEST
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Marcus Thornton
Emeka Okafor
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
None
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Jason Smith
Jarrett Jack
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now.
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 6
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Chris Paul
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Emeka Okafor
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Chris Paul 1.289
David West 0.963
Marcus Thornton 0.854
Emeka Okafor 0.820
Jason Smith 0.733
Jarrett Jack 0.733
Trevor Ariza 0.660
Quincy Pondexter 0.659
Willie Green 0.568
Marco Belinelli 0.464
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Chris Paul 2308.22
David West 1674.69
Emeka Okafor 1300.01
Trevor Ariza 1145.42
Jason Smith 589.74
Marco Belinelli 582.35
Marcus Thornton 554.90
Willie Green 521.02
Jarrett Jack 482.73
Quincy Pondexter 288.59
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Chris Paul 0.840
David West 0.526
Marcus Thornton 0.337
Jarrett Jack 0.335
Marco Belinelli 0.308
Emeka Okafor 0.294
Willie Green 0.276
Jason Smith 0.267
Trevor Ariza 0.230
Quincy Pondexter 0.228
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Emeka Okafor 0.526
Marcus Thornton 0.517
Jason Smith 0.465
Chris Paul 0.449
David West 0.437
Quincy Pondexter 0.431
Trevor Ariza 0.430
Jarrett Jack 0.397
Willie Green 0.291
Marco Belinelli 0.156
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 4, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to CHRIS PAUL who leads the Hornets in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to CHRIS PAUL who has produced more than any other player on the Hornets so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
CHRIS PAUL
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
DAVID WEST
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Marcus Thornton
Emeka Okafor
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
None
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Jason Smith
Jarrett Jack
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now.
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 6
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Chris Paul
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Emeka Okafor
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Chris Paul 1.289
David West 0.963
Marcus Thornton 0.854
Emeka Okafor 0.820
Jason Smith 0.733
Jarrett Jack 0.733
Trevor Ariza 0.660
Quincy Pondexter 0.659
Willie Green 0.568
Marco Belinelli 0.464
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Chris Paul 2308.22
David West 1674.69
Emeka Okafor 1300.01
Trevor Ariza 1145.42
Jason Smith 589.74
Marco Belinelli 582.35
Marcus Thornton 554.90
Willie Green 521.02
Jarrett Jack 482.73
Quincy Pondexter 288.59
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Chris Paul 0.840
David West 0.526
Marcus Thornton 0.337
Jarrett Jack 0.335
Marco Belinelli 0.308
Emeka Okafor 0.294
Willie Green 0.276
Jason Smith 0.267
Trevor Ariza 0.230
Quincy Pondexter 0.228
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 4, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the Oklahoma Thunder)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Emeka Okafor 0.526
Marcus Thornton 0.517
Jason Smith 0.465
Chris Paul 0.449
David West 0.437
Quincy Pondexter 0.431
Trevor Ariza 0.430
Jarrett Jack 0.397
Willie Green 0.291
Marco Belinelli 0.156
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
Monday, February 7, 2011
Oklahoma Thunder Real Player Ratings as of February 3, 2011
TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
OKLAHOMA THUNDER REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 3, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to RUSSELL WESTBROOK who leads the Thunder in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to RUSSELL WESTBROOK who has produced more than any other player on the Thunder so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
RUSSELL WESTBROOK
SUPER STARS
KEVIN DURANT
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Serge Ibaka
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Nick Collison
James Harden
Eric Maynor
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 6
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Russell Westbrook
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Nick Collison
OKLAHOMA THUNDER REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Russell Westbrook 1.015
Kevin Durant 0.941
Serge Ibaka 0.806
Nick Collison 0.756
James Harden 0.745
Eric Maynor 0.738
Jeff Green 0.585
Nenad Krstic 0.540
Thabo Sefolosha 0.540
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
OKLAHOMA THUNDER REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Russell Westbrook 1757.33
Kevin Durant 1648.86
Serge Ibaka 994.35
James Harden 917.37
Jeff Green 907.64
Thabo Sefolosha 687.47
Nick Collison 609.21
Eric Maynor 504.77
Nenad Krstic 465.06
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
OKLAHOMA THUNDER OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Russell Westbrook 0.746
Kevin Durant 0.627
Eric Maynor 0.414
Serge Ibaka 0.394
James Harden 0.381
Jeff Green 0.343
Nenad Krstic 0.325
Nick Collison 0.288
Thabo Sefolosha 0.224
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
OKLAHOMA THUNDER DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Nick Collison 0.468
Serge Ibaka 0.412
James Harden 0.364
Eric Maynor 0.324
Thabo Sefolosha 0.316
Kevin Durant 0.314
Russell Westbrook 0.268
Jeff Green 0.242
Nenad Krstic 0.215
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
OKLAHOMA THUNDER REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 3, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to RUSSELL WESTBROOK who leads the Thunder in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to RUSSELL WESTBROOK who has produced more than any other player on the Thunder so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
RUSSELL WESTBROOK
SUPER STARS
KEVIN DURANT
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Serge Ibaka
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Nick Collison
James Harden
Eric Maynor
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 6
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Russell Westbrook
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Nick Collison
OKLAHOMA THUNDER REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Russell Westbrook 1.015
Kevin Durant 0.941
Serge Ibaka 0.806
Nick Collison 0.756
James Harden 0.745
Eric Maynor 0.738
Jeff Green 0.585
Nenad Krstic 0.540
Thabo Sefolosha 0.540
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
OKLAHOMA THUNDER REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Russell Westbrook 1757.33
Kevin Durant 1648.86
Serge Ibaka 994.35
James Harden 917.37
Jeff Green 907.64
Thabo Sefolosha 687.47
Nick Collison 609.21
Eric Maynor 504.77
Nenad Krstic 465.06
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
OKLAHOMA THUNDER OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Russell Westbrook 0.746
Kevin Durant 0.627
Eric Maynor 0.414
Serge Ibaka 0.394
James Harden 0.381
Jeff Green 0.343
Nenad Krstic 0.325
Nick Collison 0.288
Thabo Sefolosha 0.224
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
OKLAHOMA THUNDER DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 3, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Nick Collison 0.468
Serge Ibaka 0.412
James Harden 0.364
Eric Maynor 0.324
Thabo Sefolosha 0.316
Kevin Durant 0.314
Russell Westbrook 0.268
Jeff Green 0.242
Nenad Krstic 0.215
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
Sunday, February 6, 2011
Atlanta Hawks Real Player Ratings as of February 5, 2011
TEAM REAL PLAYER RATING REPORTS
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
ATLANTA HAWKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to AL HORFORD who leads the Hawks in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to AL HORFORD who has produced more than any other player on the Hawks so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
AL HORFORD
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
JOSH SMITH
JOE JOHNSON
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Marvin Williams
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Jamal Crawford
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 5
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Joe Johnson
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Josh Smith
ATLANTA HAWKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Al Horford 1.148
Josh Smith 0.997
Joe Johnson 0.982
Marvin Williams 0.806
Jamal Crawford 0.739
Mike Bibby 0.687
Jeff Teague 0.574
Zaza Pachulia 0.550
Jason Collins 0.537
Maurice Evans 0.480
Josh Powell 0.346
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
ATLANTA HAWKS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Al Horford 1934.36
Josh Smith 1736.54
Joe Johnson 1467.48
Mike Bibby 1033.73
Jamal Crawford 1009.93
Marvin Williams 780.41
Zaza Pachulia 382.22
Maurice Evans 361.31
Jeff Teague 283.67
Jason Collins 228.42
Josh Powell 163.11
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
ATLANTA HAWKS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Joe Johnson 0.643
Al Horford 0.632
Jamal Crawford 0.497
Josh Smith 0.425
Mike Bibby 0.404
Jeff Teague 0.373
Marvin Williams 0.362
Josh Powell 0.252
Zaza Pachulia 0.243
Maurice Evans 0.243
Jason Collins 0.129
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
ATLANTA HAWKS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Josh Smith 0.573
Al Horford 0.516
Marvin Williams 0.444
Jason Collins 0.408
Joe Johnson 0.338
Zaza Pachulia 0.307
Mike Bibby 0.282
Jamal Crawford 0.242
Maurice Evans 0.238
Jeff Teague 0.201
Josh Powell 0.093
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
During the regular season beginning in late January (when we can first calculate the hidden defending adjustments) Quest for the Ring (QFTR) posts Team Real Player Ratings for major contending teams and other selected teams as time permits. At the end of the regular season and before the Conference Finals begin, we post the final ratings for the four teams in those finals. The final ratings for those final four teams can then be used in team grids that are very important parts of any playoff series preview.
After the playoffs are over QFTR has enough time to produce and publish a final Real Player Ratings Report for all thirty NBA teams. These annual records of who was really the best and who really did what are scheduled to be posted in late June and in early July. They are posted in alphabetic order by team starting with the Atlanta Hawks and ending with the Washington Wizards.
The User Guide for Real Player Ratings was last revised and updated in May 2010; a new revision is "on order" and is expected to be completed between February 20 and March 15, 2011. The current User Guide is still very useful; the only section of it that is not completely accurate is the one where the specific factors are shown; the factors have been adjusted a little to reflect the latest information and understanding QFTR has about exactly how playoff games are won. There has also been a significant improvement in the calibration and validation of Real Player Ratings components. There are links to the current User Guide at the bottom of this Report.
ATLANTA HAWKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
as of February 5, 2011
Congratulations and respect are due to AL HORFORD who leads the Hawks in quality basketball so far in 2010-11.
Congratulations and respect are due to AL HORFORD who has produced more than any other player on the Hawks so far in 2010-11.
KEY PLAYERS (above the NBA average)
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
AL HORFORD
HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None
SUPER STARS
JOSH SMITH
JOE JOHNSON
STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None
VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Marvin Williams
MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Jamal Crawford
AVAILABLE PLAYERS
KEY (ABOVE AVERAGE) PLAYERS DEFINITELY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
None as of now
TOTAL NUMBER OF ABOVE AVERAGE PLAYERS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW FOR THE PLAYOFFS: 5
BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Joe Johnson
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Josh Smith
ATLANTA HAWKS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Al Horford 1.148
Josh Smith 0.997
Joe Johnson 0.982
Marvin Williams 0.806
Jamal Crawford 0.739
Mike Bibby 0.687
Jeff Teague 0.574
Zaza Pachulia 0.550
Jason Collins 0.537
Maurice Evans 0.480
Josh Powell 0.346
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. In pro basketball, point guard and center are the most important positions, power forward is in the middle, and small forward and shooting guard are the least important. (Some teams will have a different pattern.) The following are good estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .635
Small Forward .645
Power Forward .715
Center .755
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. The greatest Championship teams will probably not have any players with a rating below .600 playing.
ATLANTA HAWKS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real basketball production of players
--An estimate of the value of hidden defending production is included in the total production for all players shown
Al Horford 1934.36
Josh Smith 1736.54
Joe Johnson 1467.48
Mike Bibby 1033.73
Jamal Crawford 1009.93
Marvin Williams 780.41
Zaza Pachulia 382.22
Maurice Evans 361.31
Jeff Teague 283.67
Jason Collins 228.42
Josh Powell 163.11
=============== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ===============
ATLANTA HAWKS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' offense
Joe Johnson 0.643
Al Horford 0.632
Jamal Crawford 0.497
Josh Smith 0.425
Mike Bibby 0.404
Jeff Teague 0.373
Marvin Williams 0.362
Josh Powell 0.252
Zaza Pachulia 0.243
Maurice Evans 0.243
Jason Collins 0.129
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .385
ATLANTA HAWKS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--As of February 5, 2011 (includes all games through the Feb. 2 game against the New Orleans Hornets)
--All players who have played 300 minutes or more are included
--Shows the real quality of players' defending
--The hidden defending adjustment, which is necessary for a full evaluation of defense, is included for all players rated
Josh Smith 0.573
Al Horford 0.516
Marvin Williams 0.444
Jason Collins 0.408
Joe Johnson 0.338
Zaza Pachulia 0.307
Mike Bibby 0.282
Jamal Crawford 0.242
Maurice Evans 0.238
Jeff Teague 0.201
Josh Powell 0.093
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is about .315
The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
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