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Thursday, April 26, 2007

Nuggets Starters Run Out of Gas, Lose Game 2 to Spurs 97-88

As I expected, the Nuggets were not capable of a second miracle 5-man game deep in the heart of Texas. They were, in fact, unable to put up much of a fight against the Spurs at all. A.I., Melo, Nene, Camby, and Blake had an even bigger letdown from their huge game one performance than I thought they would have. In game 1, the Nugget's bench, with it's scarce minutes, was able to get 6 points, while in this game it exploded for 7 points. So predictably, the Spurs took game two 97-88, to even the series at one game each.

Coach Karl seems to think that the game is decided by who scores more points among the starters. If he were correct, the Nuggets would be up 2-0 in this series, as the big five starters for the Nuggets outscored PF Duncan, C Elson, SF Bowen, SG Finley, and PG Parker 81-67, after burying them 89-53 in game one. The Spurs bench totalled 94 minutes in this game while the Nuggets bench was given only 42 minutes. There are 240 player minutes to allocate in a game, so you can see that A.I., Melo, Nene, Camby, and Blake took up over 80% of the playing time by themselves. The Spurs starters took up about 60% of the playing time, leaving a generous 40% for the role players.

What George Karl is doing is exactly opposite what title winners such as Greg Popovich and Phil Jackson do. They generously rotate in every role player who can contribute from off the bench, while at the same time making sure that their key performers, in this case Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, do not run out of gas. With the possible exception of Iverson, the five players that Karl is over relying on are all subject to getting a little bit tired in the second half when they are left in for almost the entire game. More to the point, they are going to be a little more tired than the Spurs players on the court at any given time.

To be specific with regard to this game, Popovich had Duncan play 33 minutes and Parker play 38 minutes, while Karl had Melo play 44 minutes and Iverson play 45 minutes. In a tight game between two evenly matched teams, the fact that Iverson and Melo are a little more tired than Duncan and Parker could be the difference between winning and losing. In this game, neither A.I. nor Melo were fully feeling their jump shots, and they were both getting mangled on layup attempts at the hoop, so when the Spurs had the extra step on them later in the game, it just made a bad situation worse. By not resting A.I. and Melo for roughly half of the the 3rd quarter, the Coach blew an opportunity to see if J.R. Smith or Linas Kleiza could shoot the Nuggets back into the game.

About half way through the 4th, a weary Melo and a weary A.I. finally tapped that last small reserve of athletic adrenalin that they were saving for the last desperate minutes, but it was not enough. Iverson buried a three with 45 seconds left to make it 91-88 Spurs, but Duncan then calmly iced the win for the Spurs by making a little 9-foot banked jumper with 27 seconds to go for 93-88 Spurs. Anthony said after the game: "Tonight we showed that we're going to fight. Whether we're down 50 or we're down two, we're going to fight you until the last whistle blows." He might have added, "or until we drop from exhaustion". The Nuggets were literally outnumbered by the Spurs, who kept enough fresh role players on the court at all times to guard well their absolutely necessary victory.

George Karl refused to budge on his refusal to share substantial playing time outside of the five starters, with J.R. Smith not even playing quite a quarter and Linas Kleiza getting only 16 minutes. When they were playing 20-30 minutes a game, Smith was the key factor in at least 6 of the Nuggets 45 regular season wins this season, and Kleiza was the key extra factor in at least 4 of them, but such contributions are ignored by Mr. Karl in Scroogeland. Most coaches would be using Kleiza to give Melo some breathers and Smith to give Iverson some breathers.

Of course, many coaches would have Smith starting at shooting guard and Iverson starting at point guard, with Blake coming in from the bench. At one point earlier this season, Karl did start A.I. at the point and J.R. at SG, and it worked quite well. That ended in less than two weeks, though, when J.R. upset Karl's delicate sensibilities when he had a few too many turnovers and made a few too many bad-looking shots in two or three different games. Even the J.R. shots that went in were counted as a negative by the Coach, if they looked awkward or if they were taken when someone else had a better open look. In recent weeks, Smith has been late to practice a time or two, and late once for the team bus, which caused Karl to bury him even deeper on the bench. As for Kleiza, his main problem is that he is not A.I., Melo, Nene, Camby, or Blake, since Karl thinks that five should be enough. Also, Karl apparently worries that Kleiza is too young to be dependable in a high pressure playoff situation, which is one of those theories that only a pessimistic scrooge could adopt.

There is a parallel problem going on, due to Karl's refusal to play rebounding and in-the-paint defensive specialist Reggie Evans. Nene has gotten noticed by the entire basketball community for his ability to neutralize Tim Duncan, and Camby is a blocking and rebounding ace second to no one except maybe Kevin Garnett, but a big man such as Nene and a complex multi-dimensional center such as Camby can only play so many minutes before they start missing layups, missing blocks, and causing the refs to blow their whistles. In this game, a running low on gas Camby fumbled an open dunk with 1:52 to go that would have made the score 89-85 Spurs. Would Camby had blown that dunk if Reggie Evans had given him the kind of rest that most players his age and condition get? I seriously doubt it.

The game was like a big cry from the gang of five: "we need a little help here, George." Camby's blown dunk was just the tip of the iceberg. The starting five were able to make only 15 of 34 layups, which would be miserable for any junior high team, let alone a pro team playing for the ring which, ironically, Camby said during the day was attainable for the Nuggets this time around. Careful, Mr. Camby, that's alot easier said than done and you don't want to overwhelm everyone. It's supposed to be one game at a time, you know. Meanwhile, the Spur's starters made 10 of 13 layups, with the steady but cautious Duncan making 5 of 5. Overall, the Spurs made 16 of 24 layups, while the Nuggets frantically made only 16 of 37.

The Nuggets shooting was a pathetic 38.6% while the Spurs shooting was held to 43.8%. Other than the shooting, the rest of the production was remarkably equal between the two teams, a bad sign for the Spur's prospects in Denver. The Spurs were supposed to dominate in rebounding in this series, but both teams had 44 rebounds in this game, with Denver getting 14 offensive rebounds versus just 10 for the Spurs. The Nuggets, who just about led the League in turnovers this year, had a very reasonable 12 turnovers, while the Spurs, who had fewer turnovers than almost anyone, had 13. Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili combined for 15 of the 20 Spurs assists, while Blake (7 assists) and Iverson (5 assists) combined for 12 of the Nuggets 17 assists.

Tim Duncan had five blocks and Marcus Camby had three. But the Nuggets beat the Spurs on steals 7-5. A.I. made three steals and Camby made two steals. SF Bruce Bowen made three steals for the Spurs.

From 3-point land, Melo, Iverson, and Blake all stepped up and made clutch 3-pointers, as the Nuggets actually did better from long range than from shorter range. In another sign that the Spurs are likely to lose the series, the Nuggets were able to keep the Spur's big 3-point shooting advantage to a minimum for the two games in San Antonio, despite the fact that Kleiza and Smith were non-factors.

So the Nuggets are standing or falling based on how just those five do, and they followed their incredibly outstanding performance in game one with a very weak three and a half quarters in this game, with a too little too late rally in the last half of the fourth quarter. The 4th quarter rally, at least, gave the Spurs a little bit of a scare, and informed them that the Nuggets are not going to go away quietly in this series.

No, this is going to be a six or seven game series. And I will now proceed to the good news, and reward with a big shot of confidence any Nuggets fan who has read this far and soaked up the bad news. The biggest story of all from this series so far is that the Spurs have played poorly in both of their home games. That is a major shock, and obviously means that the Nuggets can and should win both of the upcoming games in Denver, as long as they avoid a shooting disaster like the one that occurred tonight, which is little to ask for.

In a remarkable development, Nene, with some assistance from Camby, have neutralized Duncan two straight games in his building. As long as Nene and Camby keep hustling enough to keep harassing Duncan, who is overwhelmingly the go-to guy in the Spurs front court, the Nuggets in theory need only to avoid an A.I.-Melo combined shooting disaster to win both games in Denver. If one of those two is hitting, it will be close, but the Nuggets, with some assistance from extremely loud fans, would be favored. And if both A.I. and Melo are making shots, you can turn the lights out in San Antonio for this season.

Najera played 14 minutes and was 0/3 for 0 points, and he had 2 rebounds and an assist.

Kleiza played 16 minutes and was 2/4 and 1/3 on 3's for 5 points, and he had 1 assist.

Blake played 35 minutes and was 3/5 and 2/3 on 3's for 8 points, and he added 7 assists, 4 rebounds, and a steal.

J.R. Smith played 12 minutes and was 0/4, 0/3 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 2 points, and he had 3 rebounds.

Nene played 36 minutes and was 8/15 and 1/2 from the line for 17 points, and he had 7 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block.

Camby played 39 minutes and was 4/11 and 2/4 from the line for 10 points, and he also had 18 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 2 steals. This was well above Camby's normal playing minutes and well above the minutes played by comparable players in similar situations.

A.I. played for virtually the whole game and was 9/25 and 2/3 on 3's for 20 points, and he had 5 assists and 3 steals.

Melo played for virtually the whole game and was 8/21, 2/4 on 3's, and 8/9 from the line for 26 points, and he had 10 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 steal.

The next game, which will be game 3 of the series, will be Saturday, April 28 in Denver, against the Spurs, of course, at 6 pm mountain time.


IT WAS UNTHINKABLE THAT SPURS COACH GREG POPOVICH
WOULD BE SCROOGED BY GEORGE KARL TWICE IN A ROW













NENE ON TIM DUNCAN















NENE IS GENERALLY GETTING GOOD POSITIONING ON DUNCAN













A SLIGHTLY WEARY BUT DETERMINED IVERSON













A.I. FINDS A GOOD PLACE TO TAKE A BREATHER














IN BASKETBALL, THE BEST PLAYER ON THE COURT DOES NOT
ALWAYS WIN; FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK WITH KOBE BRYANT













MELO LEANS IN ON TIM DUNCAN













TIRED OUT BUT HEADING HOME, THE NUGGETS
ACHIEVED IN SAN ANTONIO WHAT WAS
NEEDED TO EVENTUALLY WIN THIS SERIES

Monday, April 23, 2007

A.I., Melo, Nene, Camby, & the Nuggets Stun Spurs 95-89

It was a titanic struggle, but the Titanic, in the end, went down, despite the fact that the Basketball Establishment was in complete agreement that the Titanic, otherwise known as the San Antonio Spurs, would never sink. True, it was only one game, but the Nuggets won with one hand tied behind their backs, as they played under Coach Scrooge with just 7 players playing 10 minutes or more, whereas the Spurs had 10 players playing 10 minutes or more. Incredibly, the Spurs bench outscored the Nuggets bench 36-6, whereas the Nugget's dream team of starters, minus Kenyon Martin, outscored the Spurs tried, tested, and well worn starters by an astonishing 89-53, surely one of the greatest such playoff routs in recent years.

Coach George "Scrooge" Karl seems to impart his scrooge-like ways on the Nuggets more and more with each passing week, and they have now been molded to be able to win basketball games with essentially no bench scoring at all, which is supposedly impossible in modern pro basketball. I would reckon it's been about 50 years since a team won a major playoff game with just 5 contributors. Well, "why bring other hands into the picture?," reasons any scrooge worth his salt. "They are liable to muck things up. And money can be saved if we just take J.R. Smith, Reggie Evans, and DerMarr Johnson off the payroll entirely, so let's just kick them off the team and be done with it."

Meanwhile, Coach Popovich of the Spurs had his worst fears, that his squad might be a little too long in the tooth to have an easy time of things against the extremely talented but extremely inexperienced and dubiously coached Nuggets, start to come true. No, Popovich will not be sleeping very well this week, because the Nuggets did not merely stun the Spurs and the entire Basketball Establishment, they blew up alot of assumptions and left them in a thousand pieces on the court. The Nuggets actually won this game by more than the raw score indicates.

How is this series likely to go from here, based on what is known now? There is little doubt that the Spurs will win game 2. Popovich will come up with new schemes and the Spurs will kick it into their highest gear to make sure they are not handled in their own building again. But the Nuggets, provided that most of the following keep happening, namely, that Melo and Iverson keep making jumpers at a fast pace, that Nene, with assistance from Camby, keeps doing a number on Tim Duncan, that J.R. Smith can get a disguise and sneak on to the court for games 3 and 4 in Denver, and that Kleiza can do a little better than the 0 of 5 from the field that he shot in this game, will likely be in full command of the proceedings in Denver, and are likely to return to San Antonio with a 3 to 1 game lead in the series for game 5 on Wednesday, May 2. The Spurs would be favored in that one, for old time's sake, whereupon the Nuggets can complete the 4 games to 2 massive upset on Friday May 4, in a Denver that will by then be having a huge case of basketball fever, with crazed fans ready to party long into the night.

That's my prediction and I am sticking to it. From this point forward, your Nuggets reporter is not accepting any criticism, from either himself or anyone else, that he is always too pessimistic about the Nuggets. On the other hand, I am warning you in advance that I will probably be predicting that the Suns, who will not be intimidated by the energy and the athletic talent of the Nuggets, will beat the Nuggets in the West's round of four.

And before anyone gets carried away, keep in mind that the Nuggets are one minor injury away from total disaster. George Karl has bet the ranch on A.I., Melo, Camby, and Nene. If any of these go out with an injury, well, don't expect Karl to have a plan to deal with it, let's put it that way.

When Charles Barkley, a former basketball star and now a commentator on the TNT cable network, was predicting that the Nuggets would go nowhere, he backed up his prediction by saying that the Nuggets have scoring, but they don't have a player or two who can get the key rebounds, who can get key stops, and who can generally slow down and harass big men such as Tim Duncan. Aside from overlooking the defensive skill of Marcus Camby, which was a monumental mistake in itself, Barkley was also apparently completely unaware of a power forward named Nene. Maybe this is because Nene is from Brazil, and Barkley and others can not conceive of a Brazilian as a big time power forward in the NBA. Well, PF all-star Tim Duncan and his Coach, Mr. Popovich, now understand that it is possible for a Brazilian to be a big time power forward in American basketball, because it is happening right before their eyes.

Although the Brazil guy was held to 13 points on 5 of 12 shooting, as Duncan was able to interfere with Nene's usual extreme effectiveness from point blank range, the Brazil guy returned the favor and held Duncan to 14 points on 7 of 17 shooting. Both of these gladiators, who the referees let fight it out with few interruptions for fouls, hounded each other to no end. Duncan had 10 rebounds, but Nene had 12. Duncan made three blocks, but Nene (1 block) and Camby (2 blocks) combined for three. So it was basically a bloody draw, which was a huge win for the Nuggets, because the Spurs came up way short when they tried to match what the dynamic duo, A.I., and Melo, were doing mostly outside of the bloody trench in the paint. Nene was the anti-Duncan, exactly the type of player Barkley had in mind when he said the Nuggets have no one like that, and so Mr. Barkley should apologize to Nene, and to the whole of Brazil if he is generous enough to go that far. I am picking on Barkley, but keep in mind that what Barkley said about the Nuggets was what most basketball observers were thinking, although most of them were not quite as harsh as he was. Everyone had Nene written off due to his serious knee injury and slow recovery, but in the end the power of his mind and body to heal won out.

Offensive rebounding was about even, but the Nuggets had 29 defensive rebounds versus 21 for the Spurs. Overall shooting was 35 of 77, for an accuracy of .455 for the Nuggets, and 37 of 88, for an accuracy of .420 for the Spurs. The Spurs shooting was worse than it looks, as their three top scorers, PF Duncan, PG Tony Parker, and SG Manu Ginobili were a combined 7 of 33 in the first half and 19 of 52 for the whole game. With all three of his best scorers out of sync, Popovich was left with a puzzle for which there was no solution.

The Nuggets dynamic duo of Melo and A.I. combined for 61 points on 21 of 40 from the field, while the Spurs dynamic duo of Parker and Ginobili combined for 28 points on 12 of 35 from the field. The old guard was rattled, could not figure out a way to become unrattled, and so they more or less surrendered in the 4th quarter of this game to the upstarts from the poor village in the hills. They retired to their castle to rest up and scheme battle plans for the next game.

Were it not for the fact that Denver was playing without a bench, this would have been a near rout, but Mr. Karl apparently feels that it would be too risky to play with a bench. "Why do so if you don't have to,?" reasons Mr. Scrooge. "A 4 or 6 point win is just as good as a 10 or 12 point win," he claims. "J.R. Smith? Don't know him and don't need to know him," continues the Scrooge. "We can do just fine without putting up alot of those crazy three-point shots that are more likely to miss than go in. And I could not care less that the Texas teams and most NBA Championship teams live off the 3-point shot. Living high off the hog like that is not good at all, and it's not for me, no sir."

Why bother arguing with him as long as the Nuggets keep winning?

This struggle of a game was played in the Spurs building and with the Spurs tempo. Therefore, the game produced very few fast break points. Denver had only 3 more turnovers than the Spurs did, 18 versus 15. The Spurs had 27 points off turnovers whereas the Nuggets had just 15, but this was offset by the Nuggets making 21 of 25 free throws, while the Spurs made 7 of 10. And so not only did Camby, Nene, and the Nuggets play effective defense, but they also played high quality defense, and were called for only 13 personal fouls, whereas the Spurs had 20.

Steve Blake, who is the one Nugget who can calm George Karl's nerves by his mere presence on the court, had a long introduction to the high pressure world of playoff pro basketball in Texas. He played most of the game, but made only 4 assists and had only 7 points on 3 of 6 shooting. He was there, he was learning, he didn't get in the way, he chose his shots carefully and, as a result, quietly helped the Nuggets in a small but significant way. And he kept George Karl calm and contented, which is important. The Nuggets had only 13 assists in total, as Melo and A.I. were hitting their shots and beating their defenders most of the night, and so were often happy with isolation plays. The Spurs had 22 assists, with Parker making 8 of them and Duncan making 7.

Fasten your breastplates well, for the nobles of the Alamo are going to be out for revenge on Wednesday, and it will probably get rather ugly for the Nuggets. But then the Nuggets will bring the nobles to their humble village for games 3 and 4, and it is then that they expect to finally win the hearts of their fans, to defeat the royal Spurs, and to continue on to battle the even mightier Suns in their desert kingdom.

Najera played 20 minutes and was 1/2 and 1/2 from the line for 3 points, and he had 4 rebounds.

Kleiza played 19 minutes and was 0/5, 0/2 on 3's, and 1/2 from the line for 1 point, and he had 4 rebounds.

Blake played 37 minutes and was 3/6 and 1/2 on 3's for 7 points, and he also had 3 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals.

J.R. Smith played 5 minutes and was 1/3 and 0/2 on 3's for 2 points.

Nene played 38 minutes and was 5/12 and 3/5 from the line for 13 points, and he had 12 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and 1 block.

Camby played 37 minutes and was 4/9 for 8 points, and he had 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, and 2 steals.

Melo played 40 minutes and was 10/18, 2/4 on 3's, and 8/8 from the line for 30 points, and he had 8 rebounds and a steal. Melo was 4 of 6 on layups and dunks. 4 of 8 on two-point jumpers, and a surprising and clutch 2 of 4 on threes.

A.I. played for virtually the whole game and was 11/22, 1/3 on 3's, and 8/8 from the line for 31 points, and he had 5 assists, 1 steal, and 1 rebound. In a development that could make Iverson even more of a legend than he already is, Iverson has completed the circle and has returned to the miracle, too good to be true days of his first three years with the Sixers. He is hitting so many jump shots, 9 of 19 in this one, for example, that he does not need to risk an injury and wear himself out by charging to the hoop alot. But when he does penetrate to the hoop, he is getting his share of foul calls.

The next game, which is game two of the best of 7 series, will be Wednesday April 25 in San Antonio to play the Spurs at 5 pm mountain time.

POPOVICH NOW KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE SCROOGED










THAT GUY FROM BRAZIL THAT BARKLEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT











NENE HAS GOOD DEFENSIVE POSITION ON DUNCAN HERE














NENE SMOTHERS THE VETERAN FORWARD ROBERT HORRY













NENE SLAM DUNK













THE SPURS HAVE A DOUBLE TEAM ON MELO HERE,
BUT COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO SO VERY OFTEN,
WITH NENE, A.I., AND CAMBY ON THE LOOSE













FAST BREAK DUNK FOR MELO













MELO SPOTS UP AS THE FANS GET READY FOR MORE PUNISHMENT













CARMELO ANTHONY













ALLEN IVERSON













ALLEN IVERSON AND TIM DUNCAN













IVERSON GOES UP FOR A SHOT BETWEEN DUNCAN AND PARKER












FOR IVERSON, THE GOOD OLD DAYS HAVE COME BACK,
AND NOW THEY ARE THE BETTER GOOD OLD DAYS













MISSION ACCOMPLISHED















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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

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