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Friday, April 16, 2010

Real Team Ratings: Final Ratings for 2009-10

REAL TEAM RATINGS
2009-10 Season
Final End of Season Ratings

1 Orlando Magic 64.99
2 Cleveland Cavaliers 64.64
3 Los Angeles Lakers 43.40
4 Dallas Mavericks 40.73
5 Utah Jazz 39.60
6 San Antonio Spurs 36.35
7 Denver Nuggets 35.88
8 Atlanta Hawks 35.49
9 Portland Trail Blazers 34.58
10 Phoenix Suns 33.64
11 Oklahoma City Thunder 29.74
12 Boston Celtics 27.35
13 Charlotte Bobcats 25.60
14 Miami Heat 23.85
15 Milwaukee Bucks 23.14
16 Houston Rockets -2.28
17 Chicago Bulls -6.27
18 Memphis Grizzlies -9.10
19 New Orleans Hornets -21.78
20 Indiana Pacers -26.95
21 Toronto Raptors -28.46
22 New York Knicks -36.08
23 Philadelphia 76ers -41.57
24 Washington Wizards -43.41
25 Detroit Pistons -45.43
26 Golden State Warriors -45.67
27 Sacramento Kings -47.38
28 Los Angeles Clippers -49.70
29 New Jersey Nets -68.78
30 Minnesota Timberwolves -80.45

========== REAL TEAM SUB RATINGS ==========

The following are the five sub ratings comprising Real Team Ratings (RTR) in order of importance. The sum of any team's five sub ratings equals that team's RTR.

EFFICIENCY SUB RATING
2009-10 Season
Final End of Season Ratings

Orlando Magic 24.60
Cleveland Cavaliers 21.30
Utah Jazz 17.10
San Antonio Spurs 16.50
Los Angeles Lakers 15.30
Atlanta Hawks 15.30
Phoenix Suns 15.30
Denver Nuggets 13.80
Boston Celtics 11.70
Portland Trail Blazers 11.10
Oklahoma City Thunder 11.10
Dallas Mavericks 9.00
Miami Heat 7.50
Milwaukee Bucks 5.40
Charlotte Bobcats 4.80
Houston Rockets -1.20
Memphis Grizzlies -4.80
Chicago Bulls -5.40
Toronto Raptors -5.70
New Orleans Hornets -7.80
Indiana Pacers -9.30
Golden State Warriors -10.50
New York Knicks -12.00
Philadelphia 76ers -12.60
Sacramento Kings -13.50
Washington Wizards -15.60
Detroit Pistons -17.40
Los Angeles Clippers -20.40
New Jersey Nets -30.00
Minnesota Timberwolves -30.00

PERFORMANCE VERSUS THE GOOD AND VERSUS THE BEST TEAMS SUB RATING
2009-10 Season
Final End of Season Ratings

Cleveland Cavaliers 24.74
Orlando Magic 21.89
Denver Nuggets 19.38
Dallas Mavericks 19.03
Los Angeles Lakers 16.80
Utah Jazz 12.60
Atlanta Hawks 11.89
Portland Trail Blazers 11.38
Phoenix Suns 10.64
Charlotte Bobcats 7.90
Oklahoma City Thunder 7.74
Boston Celtics 7.15
San Antonio Spurs 7.05
Houston Rockets 2.22
Chicago Bulls 1.03
Miami Heat -0.55
Milwaukee Bucks -1.46
Memphis Grizzlies -2.40
New Orleans Hornets -2.78
Toronto Raptors -9.26
New York Knicks -10.58
Detroit Pistons -11.53
Indiana Pacers -12.55
Washington Wizards -13.11
Los Angeles Clippers -13.70
Philadelphia 76ers -13.87
Sacramento Kings -17.78
Golden State Warriors -19.87
Minnesota Timberwolves -22.15
New Jersey Nets -25.78

MOST RECENT GAMES SUB RATING
2009-10 Season
Final End of Season Ratings
--Over weights the most recent performance, from the most recent 25 games.
--Reflects momentum, playoff motivation, and morale.
--Substantially but indirectly and inexactly reflects the current injury situations.
--Partially, indirectly, and inexactly reflects the likelihood that coaching strategies and tactics will work or not in the playoffs.
--The last five games of the Regular Season are ignored due to playoff coaches resting key players and due to other distortions.

1 Orlando Magic 13
2 Cleveland Cavaliers 13
3 Phoenix Suns 13
4 Milwaukee Bucks 13
5 Dallas Mavericks 11
6 Miami Heat 11
7 Utah Jazz 9
8 San Antonio Spurs 9
9 Portland Trail Blazers 9
10 Oklahoma City Thunder 9
11 Los Angeles Lakers 7
12 Denver Nuggets 5
13 Atlanta Hawks 5
14 Charlotte Bobcats 5
15 Boston Celtics 3
16 Memphis Grizzlies 1
17 Houston Rockets -1
18 Chicago Bulls -3
19 Indiana Pacers -3
20 Toronto Raptors -7
21 New York Knicks -7
22 Golden State Warriors -7
23 New Orleans Hornets -9
24 New Jersey Nets -11
25 Philadelphia 76ers -13
26 Sacramento Kings -13
27 Los Angeles Clippers -13
28 Washington Wizards -15
29 Detroit Pistons -15
30 Minnesota Timberwolves -21

DEFENSIVE ADJUSTMENT SUB RATING
2009-10 Season
Final End of Season Ratings
-The defensive overweight adjustment is a small but valid adjustment that slightly modifies the ratings of teams according to where they rank defensively (the better the defense, the better for the playoffs).
-Aside from being a sub rating, this shows you how the NBA teams ranked defensively this year.

1 Charlotte Bobcats 5.80
2 Milwaukee Bucks 5.40
3 Orlando Magic 5.00
4 Los Angeles Lakers 4.60
5 Boston Celtics 4.20
6 Cleveland Cavaliers 3.80
7 Miami Heat 3.40
8 San Antonio Spurs 3.00
9 Oklahoma City Thunder 2.60
10 Utah Jazz 2.20
11 Chicago Bulls 1.80
12 Dallas Mavericks 1.40
13 Atlanta Hawks 1.00
14 Indiana Pacers 0.60
15 Portland Trail Blazers 0.20
16 Denver Nuggets -0.20
17 Houston Rockets -0.60
18 Washington Wizards -1.00
19 Sacramento Kings -1.40
20 Memphis Grizzlies -1.80
21 New Orleans Hornets -2.20
22 Los Angeles Clippers -2.60
23 Phoenix Suns -3.00
24 Philadelphia 76ers -3.40
25 New Jersey Nets -3.80
26 Detroit Pistons -4.20
27 New York Knicks -4.80
28 Minnesota Timberwolves -4.80
29 Golden State Warriors -5.40
30 Toronto Raptors -5.80

PACE ADJUSTMENT SUB RATING
2009-10 Season
Final End of Season Ratings
-The pace adjustment is a very small but valid adjustment that very slightly modifies the ratings of teams according to pace (the slower the pace, the better for the playoffs).

1 Portland Trail Blazers 2.90
2 Detroit Pistons 2.70
3 Miami Heat 2.50
4 Atlanta Hawks 2.30
5 Charlotte Bobcats 2.10
6 Cleveland Cavaliers 1.80
7 New Jersey Nets 1.80
8 Boston Celtics 1.30
9 Philadelphia 76ers 1.30
10 Washington Wizards 1.30
11 San Antonio Spurs 0.80
12 Milwaukee Bucks 0.80
13 Orlando Magic 0.50
14 Dallas Mavericks 0.30
15 New Orleans Hornets 0.00
16 Los Angeles Clippers 0.00
17 Los Angeles Lakers -0.30
18 Oklahoma City Thunder -0.70
19 Chicago Bulls -0.70
20 Toronto Raptors -0.70
21 Memphis Grizzlies -1.10
22 Utah Jazz -1.30
23 Houston Rockets -1.70
24 New York Knicks -1.70
25 Sacramento Kings -1.70
26 Denver Nuggets -2.10
27 Phoenix Suns -2.30
28 Minnesota Timberwolves -2.50
29 Indiana Pacers -2.70
30 Golden State Warriors -2.90

========== USER GUIDE ==========
Below are some key excerpts from the full User Guide. But see this User Guide article for full details about the revamped Real Team Ratings system.

USER GUIDE EXCERPTS
The Real Team Ratings system was substantially improved in April 2010 effective with this Report. The biggest change and improvement is a new factor that reflects recent performance (in about the last two months). This gets at several previously ignored items that will determine who will win and lose in playoffs, including:

-Momentum and morale
-Coaching strategies and tactics that have finally produced good (or bad) results
-New players acquired for the stretch run on the regular season and for the playoffs.
-Injuries that have occurred within the last couple of months or so and that may be carrying over into the playoffs.

See the User Guide for full details about the new Real Team Ratings system. The Guide will be extensively revised in the very near future. After it is revised, a link to it will be installed right here.

INTERPRETING RTR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN TEAMS / PREDICTING PLAYOFF SERIES
NOTES
(1) This is an excerpt from the User Guide for Real Team Ratings, which is being revised, as explained above.

(2) Injury adjustments for injuries occurring within the last month or so can not be and are not completely accounted for. For larger differences between teams (greater than 25-30 RTR points) the higher rated team would generally have to have injury problems in order to lose. The probabilities mentioned below reflect the injury wild card factor about as much as they do all other uncertain factors combined.

(3) For playoff series predicting, add six points to the rating of the team that has home court advantage.

QUICK PLAYOFF SERIES PREDICTION SCALE
After you have added six points to the RTR of the team with home court advantage, calculate the difference between the two RTRs. Then find the range in which that difference is below and then you can see the probability that the series will be won by the higher team.

0 to 5.9 Complete toss-up: flip a coin
6 to 11.9 Roughly 60% chance the higher team will win
12 to 17.9 Roughly 70% chance the higher team will win
18 to 23.9 Roughly 80% chance the higher team will win
24 to 29.9 Roughly 89% chance the higher team will win
30 to 35.9 Roughly 95% chance the higher team will win
36 to 41.9 Roughly 98% chance the higher team will win
42 to 47.9 Roughly 99% chance the higher team will win
48 or more Roughly 100% chance the higher team will win

DETAILED GUIDE TO INTERPRETATION OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN IN REAL TEAM RATINGS
NOTES
(1) This is an excerpt from the User Guide for Real Team Ratings, which is being revised, as explained above.

(2) In the detailed interpretaton guide that follows, the word "roughly" is repeatedly used in front of the probability numbers, as a reminder about the small amount of unavoidable statistical error, and to emphasize that unknown factors, especially injuries, will in some cases result in substantially different actual probabilities.

(3) For playoff series predicting, add six points to the rating of the team that has home court advantage.

The probability percentages are based on the historical results in the NBA.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 0 AND 5.9
The series is a complete toss-up, when statistical error is considered. There is a strong possibility of a 7 game series. The higher team has a 50% to 55% chance of winning, depending on what exactly the difference is. These probabilities are too low for anyone to have any confidence in using RTR to say who will win. All series of this type are decided quite simply by who plays better, by who coaches better, or both.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 6.0 AND 11.9
The series can easily go either way, although the higher team has a small edge, and has between a 55% to 65% chance of winning, depending on where in the range the difference is. There is a very substantial chance of a 7-game series. If the lower team wins, it is a small upset. Either slight differences in the quality of coaching, certain players playing a little better or a little worse than they did in the regular season, or both, could be responsible for an upset at this level.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 12.0 AND 17.9
The series can go either way, and this type of difference gives a significant chance for a 7-game series. But the higher team has a clear edge. The higher team has between a 65% and a 75% probability of winning, depending on where in the range the difference is. If the lower team wins, it is a moderate upset. Either slight differences in the quality of coaching, certain players playing a little better or a little worse than they did in the regular season, or both, could be responsible for an upset at this level.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 18.0 AND 23.9
The higher team has roughly between a 75% to 85% probability of winning, depending on where in the range the difference is. There is a chance, but only a small one, for a 7-game series. If the lower team wins, it is a fairly big upset. Either coaches, certain players, or both could be responsible for an upset at this level.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 24.0 AND 29.9
The higher team has roughly between an 85% to a 93% probability of winning, depending on where in the range the difference is. In this kind of series, often the only way the lower team can win the series is by extending the series out to 7 games and then somehow winning the 7th game, thus taking the series 4 games to 3. However, it is not uncommon, assuming there is an upset in this type of series, for the lower team to so severly disrupt the favored team that the lower team upsets the higher, favored team 4 games to 2. Whichever way it does it, if the lower team does win coming in down by this amount, it should be considered a major upset. In many such cases, the coaching would have to be very wrong and/or negligent.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 30.0 AND 35.9
The higher team has roughly between a 93% and a 97% probability of winning. depending on where in the range the difference is. In this kind of series, often the only way the lower team can win the series is by taking the series 7 games and winning the 7th game, thus taking the series 4 games to 3. However, there have been a tiny number of series where a team with this amount of a RTR deficit has won the series by so severly disrupting the favored team that it is able to win the series 4 games to 2. In the vast majority of such cases, the coaching for the higher team was severely wrong and/or negligent. Whether accomplished in 6 games or 7, the lower team winning despite being this far behind in RTR is extremely rare, and would be considered a very major and very surprising upset.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS BETWEEN 36.0 AND 41.9
The higher team has roughly between a 97% and a 99% probability of winning, depending on where in the range the difference is. Obviously, an upset would be extremely rare, shocking, and historical. It would in most cases be caused substantially by incompetent and/or severely negligent coaching or by one or more major injuries. With this amount of difference, any upset would almost certainly have to be with the series going all seven games.

DIFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS 42.0 AND 47.9
The higher team has a roughly 99% probability of winning the series. Obviously, an upset would be extremely rare, shocking, and historical. It would in most cases be caused substantially by incompetent and/or severely negligent coaching or by one or more major injuries. With this amount of difference, any upset would almost certainly have to be with the series going all seven games.

DEFFERENCE IN RATINGS IS 48.0 OR MORE
It is close to a 100% certainty that the higher team will win the series. Obviously, an upset would be extremely rare, shocking, and historical. It would in the vast majority of cases be caused substantially by incompetent and/or severely negligent coaching. With this amount of difference, any upset would almost certainly have to be with the series going all seven games.

COMPLETE USER GUIDE
Above are only excerpts from the full User Guide. See this User Guide article for full details about the revamped Real Team Ratings system.

Sunday, April 11, 2010

Toronto Raptors Real Player Ratings as of April 10, 2010

TORONTO RAPTORS
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS

2009-10 season through April 10

Congratulations and respect are due to CHRIS BOSH, who is leading the Raptors in quality basketball so far this season.

Congratulations and respect are due to CHRIS BOSH, who has contributed more than any other player to the Raptors so far this season.

KEY PLAYERS
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None

HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None

SUPER STARS
CHRIS BOSH

STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None

VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Amir Johnson

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
None

BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Jose Calderon

BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Amir Johnson

TORONTO RAPTORS
REAL PLAYER RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Quality of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Chris Bosh 0.978
Jose Calderon 0.800
Amir Johnson 0.783
Jarrett Jack 0.697
Rasho Nesterovic 0.649
Hedo Turkoglu 0.631
Marco Belinelli 0.597
Andrea Bargnani 0.582
Sonny Weems 0.534
Antoine Wright 0.457
DeMar DeRozan 0.409

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.910 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.830 0.909
Very Good Player / A Solid Starter 0.760 0.829
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.650 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player 0.590 0.649
Marginal Role Player 0.530 0.589
Poor Player 0.470 0.529
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.469
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399

TORONTO RAPTORS
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Quantity of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Chris Bosh 2471.35
Andrea Bargnani 1564.85
Jarrett Jack 1511.47
Jose Calderon 1398.53
Hedo Turkoglu 1387.58
Amir Johnson 1060.76
Sonny Weems 670.72
DeMar DeRozan 649.00
Antoine Wright 636.61
Marco Belinelli 632.15
Rasho Nesterovic 261.04


========== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ==================================

TORONTO RAPTORS
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Offensive Quality: Includes all non-trivial offensive actions

Jose Calderon 0.675
Chris Bosh 0.598
Jarrett Jack 0.577
Rasho Nesterovic 0.478
Hedo Turkoglu 0.440
Amir Johnson 0.385
Andrea Bargnani 0.379
Sonny Weems 0.368
Marco Belinelli 0.365
DeMar DeRozan 0.314
Antoine Wright 0.256

TORONTO RAPTORS
DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Defending Quality: Includes both tracked and hidden defending

Amir Johnson 0.399
Chris Bosh 0.381
Marco Belinelli 0.232
Andrea Bargnani 0.204
Antoine Wright 0.202
Hedo Turkoglu 0.190
Rasho Nesterovic 0.171
Sonny Weems 0.165
Jose Calderon 0.125
Jarrett Jack 0.120
DeMar DeRozan 0.095

The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide.

USER GUIDE EXCERPT: SHOULD PLAYERS WITH LOW RATINGS BE PLAYING IN THE PLAYOFFS?
On a Championship team, many players rated below about .590 are usually a drag on that teams' Championship run. However, such players sometimes get playing time based largely on factors outside of RPR, but valued by coaches and other players, such as:

--Great energy, effort, and hustle
--Toughness, such as diving after loose balls and taking charges
--Leadership and/or knowledge, especially in the case of veterans
--Perceived potential for future improvement in terms of real basketball production, especially in the case of young players

But keep in mind also that the value of these qualities may be and often are overestimated, particularly with respect to playoff games. We see that players below about .590 are often getting too much playing time in playoff games. As a rough estimate, half of all players rated between .480 and .589 should not be playing at all in the playoffs for any of the major contenders (the best three teams) or even for the wild card contenders (the 4th, 5th, and 6th best teams).

The advice regarding players rated even lower is simple and clear. Players rated below .480 should not be playing at all in the playoffs (except in garbage time) for teams that are serious about winning the Quest for the Ring.

THE COMPLETE USER GUIDE TO REAL PLAYER RATINGS

Portland Trailblazers Real Player Ratings as of April 10, 2010

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS

2009-10 season through April 10

Congratulations and respect are due to GREG ODEN, who is leading the Trailblazers in quality basketball so far this season.

Congratulations and respect are due to LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE, who has contributed more than any other player to the Trailblazers so far this season.

KEY PLAYERS
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None

HISTORIC SUPER STARS
GREG ODEN

SUPER STARS
MARCUS CAMBY

STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Andre Miller
Brandon Roy

VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
LaMarcus Aldridge
Joel Przybilla

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Nicolas Batum

BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Brandon Roy

BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Marcus Camby

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
REAL PLAYER RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Quality of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Greg Oden 1.057
Marcus Camby 0.926
Andre Miller 0.874
Brandon Roy 0.841
LaMarcus Aldridge 0.810
Joel Przybilla 0.778
Nicolas Batum 0.701
Rudy Fernandez 0.680
Martell Webster 0.589
Jerryd Bayless 0.557
Dante Cunningham 0.553
Juwan Howard 0.521
Jeff Pendergraph 0.379

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.910 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.830 0.909
Very Good Player / A Solid Starter 0.760 0.829
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.650 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player 0.590 0.649
Marginal Role Player 0.530 0.589
Poor Player 0.470 0.529
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.469
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Quantity of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

LaMarcus Aldridge 2305.00
Andre Miller 2121.51
Brandon Roy 2024.03
Martell Webster 1131.40
Rudy Fernandez 911.71
Juwan Howard 823.73
Jerryd Bayless 691.76
Marcus Camby 597.50
Nicolas Batum 576.44
Greg Oden 530.54
Joel Przybilla 530.00
Dante Cunningham 372.11
Jeff Pendergraph 142.56


========== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ==================================

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Offensive Quality: Includes all non-trivial offensive actions

Brandon Roy 0.606
Andre Miller 0.574
Greg Oden 0.487
Jerryd Bayless 0.462
Nicolas Batum 0.461
LaMarcus Aldridge 0.455
Rudy Fernandez 0.352
Dante Cunningham 0.321
Martell Webster 0.292
Marcus Camby 0.284
Juwan Howard 0.283
Jeff Pendergraph 0.224
Joel Przybilla 0.175

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Defending Quality: Includes both tracked and hidden defending

Marcus Camby 0.643
Joel Przybilla 0.603
Greg Oden 0.570
LaMarcus Aldridge 0.355
Rudy Fernandez 0.329
Andre Miller 0.301
Martell Webster 0.297
Nicolas Batum 0.240
Juwan Howard 0.238
Brandon Roy 0.235
Dante Cunningham 0.232
Jeff Pendergraph 0.156
Jerryd Bayless 0.095

The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide.

USER GUIDE EXCERPT: SHOULD PLAYERS WITH LOW RATINGS BE PLAYING IN THE PLAYOFFS?
On a Championship team, many players rated below about .590 are usually a drag on that teams' Championship run. However, such players sometimes get playing time based largely on factors outside of RPR, but valued by coaches and other players, such as:

--Great energy, effort, and hustle
--Toughness, such as diving after loose balls and taking charges
--Leadership and/or knowledge, especially in the case of veterans
--Perceived potential for future improvement in terms of real basketball production, especially in the case of young players

But keep in mind also that the value of these qualities may be and often are overestimated, particularly with respect to playoff games. We see that players below about .590 are often getting too much playing time in playoff games. As a rough estimate, half of all players rated between .480 and .589 should not be playing at all in the playoffs for any of the major contenders (the best three teams) or even for the wild card contenders (the 4th, 5th, and 6th best teams).

The advice regarding players rated even lower is simple and clear. Players rated below .480 should not be playing at all in the playoffs (except in garbage time) for teams that are serious about winning the Quest for the Ring.

THE COMPLETE USER GUIDE TO REAL PLAYER RATINGS

San Antonio Spurs Real Player Ratings as of April 10, 2010

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS

2009-10 season through April 10

Congratulations and respect are due to TIM DUNCAN, who is leading the Spurs in quality basketball so far this season.

Congratulations and respect are due to TIM DUNCAN, who has contributed more than any other player to the Spurs so far this season.

KEY PLAYERS
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
TIM DUNCAN

HISTORIC SUPER STARS
MANU GINOBILI

SUPER STARS
None

STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
Antonio McDyess
Tony Parker

VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Matt Bonner

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
DeJuan Blair
Richard Jefferson
George Hill

BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Manu Ginobili

BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Tim Duncan

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
REAL PLAYER RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Quality of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Tim Duncan 1.246
Manu Ginobili 1.027
Antonio McDyess 0.833
Tony Parker 0.830
Matt Bonner 0.783
DeJuan Blair 0.759
Richard Jefferson 0.717
George Hill 0.711
Roger Mason 0.620
Keith Bogans 0.462
Malik Hairston 0.405

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.910 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.830 0.909
Very Good Player / A Solid Starter 0.760 0.829
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.650 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player 0.590 0.649
Marginal Role Player 0.530 0.589
Poor Player 0.470 0.529
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.469
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Quantity of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Tim Duncan 3014.39
Manu Ginobili 2185.86
Richard Jefferson 1773.82
George Hill 1603.14
Tony Parker 1391.91
Antonio McDyess 1331.71
DeJuan Blair 1086.93
Roger Mason 897.15
Matt Bonner 876.62
Keith Bogans 699.37
Malik Hairston 122.22

========== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ==================================

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Offensive Quality: Includes all non-trivial offensive actions

Manu Ginobili 0.695
Tim Duncan 0.617
Tony Parker 0.568
George Hill 0.453
Matt Bonner 0.433
DeJuan Blair 0.416
Richard Jefferson 0.345
Roger Mason 0.338
Antonio McDyess 0.318
Malik Hairston 0.272
Keith Bogans 0.229

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 10, 2010
Defending Quality: Includes both tracked and hidden defending

Tim Duncan 0.629
Antonio McDyess 0.515
Richard Jefferson 0.371
Matt Bonner 0.350
DeJuan Blair 0.343
Manu Ginobili 0.332
Roger Mason 0.281
Tony Parker 0.262
George Hill 0.258
Keith Bogans 0.233
Malik Hairston 0.132

The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide.

USER GUIDE EXCERPT: SHOULD PLAYERS WITH LOW RATINGS BE PLAYING IN THE PLAYOFFS?
On a Championship team, many players rated below about .590 are usually a drag on that teams' Championship run. However, such players sometimes get playing time based largely on factors outside of RPR, but valued by coaches and other players, such as:

--Great energy, effort, and hustle
--Toughness, such as diving after loose balls and taking charges
--Leadership and/or knowledge, especially in the case of veterans
--Perceived potential for future improvement in terms of real basketball production, especially in the case of young players

But keep in mind also that the value of these qualities may be and often are overestimated, particularly with respect to playoff games. We see that players below about .590 are often getting too much playing time in playoff games. As a rough estimate, half of all players rated between .480 and .589 should not be playing at all in the playoffs for any of the major contenders (the best three teams) or even for the wild card contenders (the 4th, 5th, and 6th best teams).

The advice regarding players rated even lower is simple and clear. Players rated below .480 should not be playing at all in the playoffs (except in garbage time) for teams that are serious about winning the Quest for the Ring.

THE COMPLETE USER GUIDE TO REAL PLAYER RATINGS

Phoenix Suns Real Player Ratings as of April 9, 2010

PHOENIX SUNS
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS

2009-10 season through April 9

Congratulations and respect are due to STEVE NASH, who is leading the Suns in quality basketball so far this season.

Congratulations and respect are due to STEVE NASH, who has contributed more than any other player to the Suns so far this season.

KEY PLAYERS
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPER STARS
None

HISTORIC SUPER STARS
STEVE NASH

SUPER STARS
None

STARS--WELL ABOVE NORMAL STARTERS
None

VERY GOOD PLAYERS--SOLID STARTERS
Amare Stoudemire
Goran Dragic

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS--GOOD ENOUGH TO START
Channing Frye
Jason Richardson
Louis Amundson

BEST BY SIDE OF COURT
BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
Steve Nash

BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER
Louis Amundson

PHOENIX SUNS
REAL PLAYER RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 9, 2010
Quality of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Steve Nash 1.097
Amare Stoudemire 0.815
Goran Dragic 0.778
Channing Frye 0.728
Jason Richardson 0.721
Louis Amundson 0.710
Robin Lopez 0.690
Grant Hill 0.670
Jared Dudley 0.668
Leandro Barbosa 0.609
Earl Clark 0.443

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.910 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.830 0.909
Very Good Player / A Solid Starter 0.760 0.829
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.650 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player 0.590 0.649
Marginal Role Player 0.530 0.589
Poor Player 0.470 0.529
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.469
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.399

NOTES REGARDING LOW REGULAR SEASON RATINGS
Players rated below about .550 sometimes get playing time based largely on factors outside of RPR, but valued by coaches and other players, such as:
--Great energy, effort, and hustle
--Toughness, such as diving after loose balls and taking charges
--Leadership and/or knowledge, especially in the case of veterans
--Perceived potential for future improvement in terms of real basketball production, especially in the case of young players

But keep in mind also that the value of these qualities may be overestimated, particularly with respect to playoff games. If so, players below about .550 are probably getting much too much playing time. See the User Guide (link at the bottom) for much more.

PHOENIX SUNS
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 9, 2010
Quantity of players: includes all tracked actions and hidden defending
All players who have played at least 300 minutes included

Steve Nash 2781.69
Amare Stoudemire 2195.40
Jason Richardson 1708.69
Grant Hill 1558.87
Channing Frye 1520.84
Jared Dudley 1272.24
Goran Dragic 1066.76
Louis Amundson 778.79
Robin Lopez 680.46
Leandro Barbosa 437.46
Earl Clark 160.86

========== OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS ==================================

PHOENIX SUNS
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS

2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 9, 2010
Offensive Quality: Includes all non-trivial offensive actions

Steve Nash 0.931
Goran Dragic 0.532
Amare Stoudemire 0.524
Jason Richardson 0.473
Leandro Barbosa 0.450
Channing Frye 0.417
Robin Lopez 0.415
Jared Dudley 0.401
Grant Hill 0.393
Louis Amundson 0.309
Earl Clark 0.197

PHOENIX SUNS
DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
2009-10 Regular Season
As of April 9, 2010
Defending Quality: Includes both tracked and hidden defending

Louis Amundson 0.401
Channing Frye 0.311
Amare Stoudemire 0.291
Grant Hill 0.277
Robin Lopez 0.275
Jared Dudley 0.267
Jason Richardson 0.248
Earl Clark 0.247
Goran Dragic 0.246
Steve Nash 0.166
Leandro Barbosa 0.159

The breakdown between hidden and unhidden defending is available on request.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide.

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LAKERS SIGN IN HOLLYWOOD
The Nuggets are scary, but Lakers fans can breathe a sigh of relief when they think of who coaches them!

>>>I WANT TO STICK WITH THE WAY OTHER SITES PRESENT POSTS
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>>ALTERNATIVE HOME PAGES
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>>REPORT READERS: Complete freedom to rapidly choose and read what you need or want to read. The latest 40 Reports are found near the top of all three of the primary home pages (linked to just above) while Reports #41-#100 are found in three separate readers placed at various points down the page on all three primary home pages.

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The above shows you in two different ways the exact amount of time since The Quest for the Ring began to completely explain how the Quest is won, while having as much fun as possible at the expense of basketball pretenders and player haters. The first panel shows how long it has been in each of seven units. The second panel shows how long it has been in the more usual "remainder" way.

QUEST FOR THE RING SOMETIMES GOES INTO HIATUS
Regardless of any temporary unavoidable absences, the Quest is in this project to explain in detail for the very long term--indefinitely, for many, many, many years ahead. At this writing we have the equivalent of 15 basketball books under our belt and we plan on doing dozens more. Count on us being right where basketball is at, which is here, actually.

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The amount of reporting and the frequency of Quest Reports could easily be double what it is were site traffic higher. If Quest obtained the traffic we know it deserves, than production would go from the equivalent of roughly three books about basketball a year to at least five and to as many as six books a year!

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WELCOME TO THE QUEST--THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT HERE

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REAL ZONE
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.

Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.


A SMALL SAMPLE OF CURRENT AND SOON TO COME QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins

A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALREADY COMPLETED QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense

UNIQUE SITE DESIGN
The Quest is organized in a completely different way from what you are used to on the internet. We have combined the best features of the blog and the conventional web site formats, the latter being the norm for large organizations. However, since we do not like the idea of using flash to "wow" visitors, we do not use flash except within video and other discrete components. So we are state of the art in terms of expanding the power of visitors to get exactly what they want very quickly, but we do not have the latest flash gadgetry just to "keep up with the Joneses". More broadly, you will find that Quest for the Ring never seeks to keep up with the Joneses, simply because the Joneses never had the nerve and the intelligence to do what we do.

2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
Just before the 2009-10 season tipped, the very large number of features and links to important resources were strategically reorganized and placed within an easy to use and clearly labelled section system. So ended the era of the rapidly developed, sprawling and slightly disorganized Quest, and so began the era of the big but under careful control and extremely well organized and professional Quest for the Ring.

The Quest Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into the new sections as of November 2009. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining thing you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.

Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for those who know what they are looking for and wish to find and engage the appropriate link, But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience. The Quest home page is big enough and chock loaded enough that link hunting is not absolutely necessary the way it normally is at many other basketball sites.

THERE MUST BE TEN WAYS TO READ REPORTS [PAUL SIMON LOL]
There are close to ten ways to find out about, select, and read Quest Reports! The standard, traditional blog presentation is available as one of the many ways to choose, access, and read reports. On the Home Page, only one report loads in the traditional format in order to keep this page as quick loading as possible.
See the "Total Freedom of Navigation" section for complete details about how to find, choose, and read reports.

One key place to find Older Reports is on sequentially numbered url's thequestforthering2.blogspot.com, thequestforthering3.blogspot.com, and so forth.

THE QUEST USER GUIDE VERSUS an about page
Other sites most often have undeveloped and limited in scope "about pages" which is usually all they have for what we call a "User Guide". Our User Guide material is a vast improvement, quantitatively and qualitatively, over a mere "about page" While many other sites don't help their visitors to make the best use of the content, we do. Also, the User Guide is chock loaded with invitations to visitors to participate in all kinds of ways, including for example advertising for free, link exchange, and getting a team site supported by Quest.

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MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS

Note: This is generally a once a year, end of season Report. For many teams and players, more recent ratings are often available.

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
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