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Thursday, February 15, 2007

Nuggets Badly Out Rebounded in Loss to Wolves 99-94

The Nuggets were leading the NBA in offensive rebounding going into this game and the Wolves were just about last, but each team played like the other usually does and the Wolves plastered the Nuggets with numerous second and third chance scores. The Nuggets, who had small leads most of the way but were intimidated on the boards by Kevin Garnett (17 rebounds) and Mark Blount (8 rebounds), fell to the large number of second and third chance Wolves scores and to yet another 4th quarter collapse, losing 99-94.

This was a battle between the two top rebounders in the NBA, Garnett and Marcus Camby, but it was not even close, as Camby had his clock cleaned by Garnett and finished with only 3 rebounds. Just as strangely, Nene had only 2 rebounds and Reggie Evans had just 4. Blake, Melo, and Kleiza led the Nuggets in rebounding with 5 each, in what could only be described as a total domination of the normally powerful Camby-Nene rebounding combination by the normally powerful Garnett-Blount rebounding combination.

Every one of the Minnesota guards except for backup Rashad McCants had miserable shooting nights, so Garnett and Blount had to score as well as dominate the boards if the Wolves were to win, and that is exactly what they did. Garnett had 19 points on 7/14 shooting and Mark Blount had 24 points on 11/19 shooting. Blount, who the Wolves obtained from the Celtics, is playing as a great low post partner for Garnett and his jump shot can be deadly as it was tonight.

Predicting how well the Nuggets will play has become a foolish thing to do and I, for one, have learned my lesson to never try to do it. More generally, being a Nuggets fan is not easy, and is recommended only for those who have alot of experience dealing with surprising bad things popping up out of nowhere in their life on a regular basis. You must keep a tough attitude and not break down and beg the Nuggets for mercy when they follow an outstanding game with another embarrassing choke. Or, more simply, you have to like really nasty rollercoasters.

The Nuggets outshot the Wolves .521 to .452, and were 6/16 from 3-point land versus 3/13 for the Wolves, but the Wolves had 93 shots on goal versus 71 for the Nuggets. To put that in perspective, for the season, the Nuggets are averaging 85 shots per game and the Wolves 78. It's bad enough to lose, but when the other team plays your way and you play their way that really gets the coaches and the fans upset.

The Minnesota fans who braved arctic weather to come to the game saw their team offensive rebound their way to a key win that brings the Wolves fully back into the race for the lower playoff seeds in the Western Conference while the Nuggets, for now, are holding the second from last (7th) seed.

The Nuggets are most likely leading the league in the number of games lost where the losing team had a double digit lead. Perhaps they should try to win some of their games by falling behind on purpose and coming from behind for the win. That may be more than sarcasm, because I swear the Lakers have successfully employed that strategy in a good number of important playoff games during the last dozen years. Fool the other team into thinking they have got the game and then steal the game from them late when they are all comfortable. And seriously, many athletes play better with the extra motivation of trying to get a win from behind.

The Nuggets played relatively error free in the first half, but made more and more errors as the second half went along. The 4th quarter of games is when the Nugget's turnover machine frequently shifts into high gear. In this 4th quarter, Blake lost the ball to PG Mike James, Nene was called for an offensive foul, Melo made a bad pass, Blake made a bad pass, Blake was called for travelling, J.R. Smith was called for travelling, and a Camby pass was intercepted by Garnett. How can you win a close game with 7 turnovers in the 4th quarter? Obviously, you can't unless you have Michael Jordan having a 45 point game or something.

Like a recovering alcoholic who breaks down and goes on a drinking binge, the Nuggets broke down and started gorging themselves on turnovers again, as their coaches who thought they might have broken the terrible habit looked on helplessly in horror. Coaching players to not do things is more difficult than coaching them to do things, but you would think by now the Nuggets would have learned to be more careful and less reckless about moving and passing the ball in the 4th quarter when a game is on the line.

In the fourth quarter, with 2:30 left and the Nuggets leading 90-87, Blount was fouled on a third chance shot by Melo, and he hit both free throws. After Garnett intercepted Camby, Blount made a nice jumper. After a Melo layup, Blount made another jumper, so with 1:28 to go it was 93-92 Wolves. Steve Blake then violated the new "let's not have another 4th quarter collapse strategy" by hoisting a three instead of dishing to someone who could go to the hoop and make a layup or draw a foul. Kleiza got the rebound and he hoisted a long 2, thus also violating the new rule. The rule specifically states that "there shall be no lame jump shots during 4th quarter collapses". This rule was followed closely during the Nuggets 3-game win streak now ended.

The Wolves then chewed up half the remaining time until Randy Foye made a great driving layup with 23 seconds left for 95-92 Wolves. After a full time out, Melo made a driving dunk to make it 95-94 Wolves just when someone, preferably J.R. Smith or Kleiza, should have been shooting a 3 to try to tie the game. Instead, the Nuggets opted to see if the Wolves would miss a free throw after an intentional foul. There was no such luck, as Foye and later Garnett made all 4 foul shots from two intentional fouls.

After the Melo dunk and the Foye free throws it was 97-94 with 14 seconds to go. So J.R. Smith missed a shot from beyond the arc right? Wrong. Ok, so at least the choking Nuggets had their point guard Steve Blake, who in most games can not shoot all that well, take a 3-point shot for overtime, right? Wrong again. What actually happened was that Blake went to the hoop for two points just when the Nuggets needed three. Predictably, Blake's shot was rejected by the collapsing Wolves game closing defense in the paint. George Karl was enraged that a foul was not called, saying Blake had been hacked. But basketball life can be so miserable and unforgiving when your team has a turnover addiction and loses it's mind and also the respect of the refs from the effects of it.

For some unknown and probably a very bad reason, Reggie Evans, the number two Denver rebounder who gets about 8 rebounds per 20 minutes of playing time, was held out of the game and played just 5 minutes. With Camby and Nene taken to the cleaners under the hoop by Garnett and Blount, that was clearly a blunder.

Najera played 18 minutes and was 4/4 for 8 points, and he added 2 rebounds. Kleiza played 27 minutes and was 4/9 and 3/5 on 3's for 11 points, and he had 5 rebounds and two assists.

Nene played for 35 minutes and was 7/11 and 4/5 from the line for 18 points, and he had 2 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 4 steals.

Steve Blake played 40 minutes and was 2/8 and 0/3 on 3's for 4 points, and he had 18 assists, 5 rebounds, and a steal.

J.R. Smith played 23 minutes and took only shots from behind the arc. He was 3/7 on these for 9 points, and he added 4 rebounds.

Marcus Camby played for 36 minutes and was 6/10 for 12 points, and he had 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, and an assist.

Melo played even more than usual, for the whole game except 3 minutes, and was 10/21, 0/2 on 3's, and 8/10 from the line for 28 points, and he added 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

The next game, which will follow the all-star break, will be next Tuesday, Feb. 20 in San Antonio to play the Spurs at 6 pm mountain time.

Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Nuggets Enjoy Unusual Easy Win Over Warriors, 123-111

Instead of scrambling and stressing, the Nugget's starters were enjoying extended bench rest during 4th quarter garbage time at the Pepsi Center as the Nuggets crashed the boards for 22 second chance offensive rebounds, J.R. Smith hit on 6/11 shots from beyond the arc, Melo's jumper remained dependable, and Nene and Camby made a good number of what were for them relatively easy layups and dunks as the Nuggets built up to a 24 point lead early in the 4th quarter and cruised to the win after that. Relatively complicated closing strategies were not needed in this one; for once there was no chance of a an ugly or chaotic 4th quarter collapse.

The Warriors give up more points than any other team in the NBA and they have not yet begun a defense improvement project as the Nuggets have. The Nuggets ended up with an astounding 37 assists, with Steve Blake getting 13 of them and Marcus Camby playing some PG and getting 7 assists. Now that is team play if I ever saw it, the center filling in for the injured guard.

The fans, still not completely sold on these streaky, yo yo Nuggets after having been badly disappointed at least one too many times, at least were able to leave the arena with some amount of confidence that they were not making fools of themselves by rooting for the Denver Imposters. They could go to sleep tonight knowing the Nuggets are not only on paper but in reality capable of being a really good team, although no one has the faintest idea what is going to happen when the Nuggets play teams such as the Mavs, Jazz, Lakers, and Suns in the many late season and playoff matchups still to come. Specifically, no one knows whether the Nuggets will be clumsy, tentative, and relatively lazy on defense during crucial games or whether they will instead be more skilled, aggressive, and energetic. The Nuggets love to rebound, but pressure defense still tastes like broccoli to them.

And no one knows whether the players will continue to choose their shots well and also get enough shot opportunities, so that they do not become a non-factor offensively that the opposing team can pretty much ignore. Only in the last half dozen games or so have the Nuggets more often than not been able to get everyone who is playing to actually contribute to the scoreboard. One example of this is Nene becoming a real functioning, scoring F-C. Another example is Najera taking and making shots. These types of things have reduced the double teaming of Melo. Whether these improvements will continue in the high pressure atmosphere of a game against teams like the Mavs or the Jazz remains to be seen.

The Nuggets had, by dominating the boards and by more often than not controlling the paint, built up a 102-87 lead with 19 seconds left in the third quarter when J.R. Smith hit a three at the buzzer ending the third quarter. After the short break between quarters, he hit another three. SF Matt Barne's pass was intercepted and J.R. got it and buried another 3, so the Warriors were treated to a "J.R. special deluxe," 9 points in less than 1 minute.

Now all of a sudden the score was 111-87 and the game was effectively over. Marcus Camby was out as of the end of the 3rd. J.R. was pulled out with 8 minutes to play in the fourth and Melo was pulled with 7 minutes to play, so the Nuggets had all their primary starters out with half a quarter to play, a luxury that the Nuggets have not enjoyed all season. The Nuggets, at least for now, have completely righted their ship and are sailing on a charted but still hazardous course toward the playoffs in late April.

PG Baron Davis, who is the only Warrior averaging more than 20 points a game at 20.7, did not play and will tomorrow have surgery on his left knee. The Warriors do not know when or even if he will return this season. The Warriors were led by the rookie SG Kelenna Azubuike, out of the University of Kentucky, with 23 points on 8/12 shooting, and by PF-C Al Harrington (of the Pacers until a trade a few weeks ago) who had 24 points on 11/23 shooting along with 8 rebounds and 6 assists.

Allen Iverson, who has missed 7 of the last games with a badly sprained ankle, can rest easy again now that the Nuggets have won 3 straight and have proved or at east strongly hinted that it was mostly bad luck and defensive laziness that cost them those home losses that briefly made them a losing team. For now, A.I. doesn't have to worry about obnoxious television interviewers asking him whether he thinks he ended up in the same old losing situation after he was traded. The Nuggets don't look like they are going to test going under the win-loss waterline at any time the rest of the season, though you can never say never with this squad.

George Karl is coaching more like a wise and kind grandfather than an aggressive taskmaster type coach (like Larry Brown) who challenges individual players but is sometimes rejected by them as an out of touch pain in the neck. (See Iverson for more details.) The way that Karl is coaching involves emphasizing the importance of team play over individual heroics.

The Karl-KMart battle of last season was due to KMart rebelling against Karl taking this approach to it's limits by limiting his playing time since KMart was not, in Karl's view, playing all the minutes he was getting in a way that was best for the team. Later,the total benching of KMart was due to the perceived disrespect of KMart toward his coach; it was not part of the coaching strategy itself. This season, with all the suspensions, trades, and injuries, Karl has struggled with limited success to get starting lineups and rotations correct, and these are very important components if the "grandfather coach" style is to succeed.

The grandfather kind of coaching can succeed spectacularly (better than the demanding type of coaching) if the team buys into the greater goal of winning and understands and implements team concepts. (See Phil Jackson for more details.) But that kind of coaching can fail with a whimper if players ignore their coach and play only for their pay checks, contracts, and careers. So Karl's coaching style is smart if and only if the players are smart and motivated to help the team as much or more than to help only themselves.

G-F Johnson played for 11 minutes and was 2/4 and 1/3 on 3's for 5 points, and he had 3 assists and 2 steals.

Najera played 19 minutes and was 2/5 and 0/1 on 3's for 4 points and he added 2 assists and a block. Evans played 20 minutes and was 3/5 and 0/2 from the line for 6 points and he led the team in rebounding with 11 boards. He also had a block, a steal, and an assist. Kleiza played for 34 minutes and was 2/9, 0/2 on 3's, and 8/8 from the line for 12 points and he had 5 rebounds and 3 assists.

Steve Blake played 37 minutes and was 4/11 and 0/3 on 3's for 8 points, and he had the 13 assists and 2 steals.

Nene played 28 minutes and was 10/14 and 4/7 from the line for 24 points, and he added 6 rebounds and 2 assists.

Marcus Camby played 27 minutes and was 4/5 and 0/3 from the line for 8 points, and he also had 7 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, and a block.

The explosive J.R. Smith played for 23 minutes and was 10/18, 6/11 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 28 points, and he also had 4 rebounds and an assist. Fans continue to be advised to at all times remain in their seats or in front of their televisions with their seat belts securely fastened when J.R. is in the game; if you go away for even as little as a minute you can miss 9 points and perhaps the game being won.

Carmelo Anthony played 30 minutes and was 12/25, 0/2 on 3's, and 4/5 from the line for 28 points and he had 8 rebounds, 5 assists, and a block.

The next game will be Wednesday, Feb. 14 in Minneapolis to play the Timberwolves at 6 pm mountain time.

Sunday, February 11, 2007

Nuggets Engineer Win Over Bucks 109-102

The Nuggets went about their business digging themselves out of the big hole they are in by producing the second great team effort in two nights to defeat the Michael Redd-less Milwaukee Bucks 109-102. Although it was the second road game in two nights, it was almost a must win given how many home games the Nuggets have already squandered this season and given that the Bucks are almost as bad off as a car without an engine without Redd, who is one of the very best scorers in the League.

The game was tied at the half, and the Nuggets led my 80-74 after 3 quarters. The teams traded scores through the first half of the 4th quarter, but the Bucks were within 2 points, at 99-97, with 2:53 to go. Melo's drive to the hoop plus 1 made it 102-97, but the Boykins fire was still out of control and he made a three and a two on successive possessions to tie the game with 1:21 to play. But then the player who has been mostly missing from the scoreboard, Najera, made a jumper to make it 104-102 Nuggets. After SF Ruben Patterson, well defended by Najera, missed a jumper for the Bucks, Nene was unintentionally fouled and made 1 of 2 free throws for 105-102 Nuggets.

PG Mo Williams missed a running jumper and a Charlie Bell inbounds pass was intercepted by Blake with half a minute left to end any chance the Bucks had to send the game into overtime.

Were it not for PG Earl Boykins and G-F Charlie Bell, the Bucks would have lost big, because the Nuggets were firing on all cylinders. Boykins, who was a Nugget (known as Iverson #2) until a month ago, but had to be traded for budget reasons, was on fire, finishing with 26 points on 10/15 shooting, and 6/7 from long range. Boykins did all this wearing a splint on his shooting hand. Bell had 16 points on 7/13 shooting. The Bucks were a blazing 10/18 overall from 3-point land, whereas the Nuggets were a much more limited 5/18 from that distance, led by J.R. Smith who was 4/8.

For the second night in the row, the Nuggets defended with very few fouls, as the Bucks made 8 of the measly 10 free throws they had for the whole game. The extra defensive drills in Denver have clearly paid off. Meanwhile, at the other end Nene and Evans were fouled repeatedly, Evans apparently on purpose. The Nuggets made 22/32 free throws, with Evans accounting for half of the 10 misses.

Solid evidence that the Nuggets are serious about winning on the road to make up for losing at home was provided by their 11 steals, achieved while one of the all-time greatest pickpockets in basketball, Allen Iverson, was still trying to get the swelling and the pain from an ankle strain to subside. And even the assist count was up, to an impressive 28, with both Blake and Melo in double digits in the category.

And then there is the evidence of the Nuggets outrebounding the Bucks 44-35, despite being without the number 2 rebounder in the NBA, Marcus Camby, also out with an injury. For the second night in a row, the Nuggets' forwards crowded the backboards, aggressively positioned themselves, and limited the second chance opportunities of their opponents.

For the second night in a row, Eduardo Najera played at a level not seen from him earlier this season, with 15 points on 7/10 shooting and 4 important steals. Led by Najera and Melo, the Nuggets played with hustle, discipline and good execution, and had only 12 turnovers, a major accomplishment in itself. Nene made sure he got his points up close and wisely decided not to try to develop his jump shooting during a live must-win game. He layed in and dunked 6 of 8 opportunities at the hoop and pocketed a nice 17 points.

In summary, every single Nugget who played for 10 minutes or more made solid contributions and had a good game relative to his career average. And, gasp, the Nuggets are playing defense and using smart strategies to close out wins.

The Nuggets are now probably the only team in the NBA who are more dangerous on the road than at home. The pressure of playing for huge Denver crowds that expect wins every game due to the Iverson hoopla may have cost them some of those home losses. On the other hand, it remains to be seen whether the across the board great effort and solid results that were seen on this golden little 2-day road trip will happen again when the Nuggets storm the arenas of the monster teams of the Western Conference. It is in places like Dallas, Phoenix, and Los Angeles, where very few teams win, that the real test will be, both in the regular season and in the playoffs.

Melo, who has talked about the need for himself to step up with A.I. and Camby out, and has also requested that the team have more fun as it turns things around, put his play where his mind is in this one, missing a so-called triple double by just 2 rebounds. In "Star Wars" it was "May the force be with you". In Nuggets basketball, it is "May Melo's jumper be with you". And for the second night in a row, it was with us.

Reggie Evans played 19 minutes and was 0/2 and 6/11 from the line for 6 points, and he had 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal. Kleiza played 27 minutes and was 4/8, 0/3 on 3's and 4/4 from the line for 12 points, and he had 4 rebounds, a steal, and an assist.

Eduardo Najera played 35 minutes and was 7/10 and 1/2 from the line for 15 points, and he added 8 rebounds, 4 steals, a block, and an assist.

Nene played for 34 minutes and was 6/8 and 5/7 from the line for 17 points, and he had 11 rebounds, 1 block, and an assist. Nuggets fans have to hope that Nene's knee continues to not swell up badly, so that the Nuggets can continue to enjoy his increasing defensive contributions, layups, and dunks.

Steve Blake played almost the whole game and was 4/14, 0/2 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 10 points and he had 11 assists and a steal.

J.R. Smith played for 24 minutes and was 5/10, 4/8 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 16 points, and he also had 3 assists. The Bucks were treated to the "J.R special," which is either 6 or even 9 points in less than a minute or two. It happened to the Bucks late in the 3rd quarter, as J.R. buried two 3-pointers on back to back possessions as he has done so many times before. As long as the Nuggets are not being routed, they will never be out of a game as long as J.R. is in it, although sometimes he seems to be physically in the game but not really there, as if he were a ghost.

Melo played almost the whole game and was 13/28, 1/4 on 3's, and 2/4 from the line for 29 points, and he added 10 assists, 8 rebounds, and 3 steals.

The next game is Monday Feb. 12 in Denver to play the Warriors at 7 pm mountain time.

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--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins

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--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense

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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

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