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Kenyon Martin Has a Breakout Game and the Nuggets Get by the Kings 101-97

In yet another appearance in Denver of a team that has fallen on hard times, the Nuggets played rough and sloppy, but were able to get by the Sacramento Kings 101-97. Each team has a very important player with the name ‘Martin’. For the Kings, SG Kevin Martin, who is by far the most important scorer on the team, is out until early to mid January with an injury. Meanwhile, for the Nuggets, PF Kenyon Martin had a huge breakout game. Overall, neither team played well, and it was disturbing to say the least that the Kings were in the game until the very end, because they didn’t do anything to deserve to be in the game at the end.

Denver did play a very good harassing defense much of the time and had 13 blocks in this game. Even more important than the blocks was that the Nuggets defended fairly well without fouling much. The Kings though, could not seem to defend without fouling often, and the Nuggets ended up with 27/34 free throws to just 12/13 for the Kings.

The Kings turned it over 23 times, while the Nuggets, the NBA leader in turning it over without ever getting a shot off, had a staggering 26 turnovers. The Kings are just about the worst rebounding team in the NBA, so the Nuggets own shortcomings in that area were hidden in this game. Between Kenyon Martin’s huge game, and the Kings having relatively poor rebounding players, the Kings were unable to put up and make a lot of second chance shots. The Kings’ overall shooting was not that great either: they were 40/90 overall for an accuracy of .444.

The Nuggets were terrible on 3-point shooting, with Carmelo Anthony missing all 4 of his 3-pointers and J.R. Smith missing all 5 of his. The Nuggets overall were 2/13 on 3’s. But the Kings, playing without their 3-point ace, SG Kevin Martin, were not a whole lot better. They were 5/18 from long range.

Kenyon Martin was the biggest factor on both offense and defense for the Nuggets in this game. On offense, Martin made 5/6 layups and dunks, along with 3/4 short jumpers, for 20 points. On defense, aside from good made you miss defending in general, Martin made 12 rebounds, 5 blocks, and 3 steals. Were Martin able to be even 2/3 this good in the months ahead, it would be a huge gain for the Nuggets.

This game was a throwback to last season in the sense that the Nuggets almost blew a game to a struggling team at home for no good reason. By 2:16 to go in the 3rd, Sacramento had stormed back from being down 59-47 at the half and lead 76-71 on a PF Mikki Moore dunk. As is usually the case in Nuggets games of this type, the 3rd quarter was a real let down for the Nuggets. George Karl failed to call time out during a Kings run about half way through the 3rd, until that run had gone to the extent of 10-2. The better coaches will call at least a 20 second time out after an 8-2 or sometimes after even a 6-2 run if they see that their team is about to give up even more on the scoreboard by the way they are playing.

The last Denver turnover was nearly a killer. With Denver leading 99-97, PG Beno Udrih stole an Iverson pass with 8.9 seconds left. SF Ron Artest drove to the bucket but kicked it out to GF Francisco Garcia for a 3, but Garcia missed it with 1.9 seconds left. According to Garcia, “I got fouled on that last 3. I thought (Iverson) hit my hands; that's why I fell." And then as if to emphasize that they never should have been in it at the end, the Kings threw away the ensuing inbounds pass with 0.7 seconds left.

Had there been two Martins in the game instead of just one, the Kings would have almost certainly won this game.

From watching the Nuggets like a hawk I have picked up on a lot of traits of George Karl in how he manages, or mismanages, as the case may be, the Denver Nuggets. One thing about Karl is that he depends on guards to win games much more than the average coach does. That the Nuggets have no dependable pick and roll, and not much in the post offense in general, does not concern him. He thinks guards should be the floor leaders, and that they should create a balance between running and fast breaking and laying up on the one hand, and passing and jump shooting on the other hand. Karl is the CEO and his favorite guard is the Head Manager, so to speak. He always has at least one guard who will be his floor leader, somebody who will on the fly make up for his unwillingness or inability to provide the nuts and bolts of playmaking.

Early last season, the 5’5” PG Earl Boykins was the floor general. After Boykins was traded to Milwaukee, and PG Steve Blake was acquired, Blake became Karl’s right hand guard. Whoever has this position gets heavy preferential treatment in terms of playing minutes and accolades from Karl in the media. That player’s actual performance is no where near as important as the position that the player has achieved in Karl’s mind: Court Manager.

This season, with Chucky Atkins, who was supposed to be the starting point guard, going out injured before the season got underway, and with Blake traded to the Trailblazers, Karl needed a new floor general. The candidates were all the guards except of course J.R. Smith, whom Karl regards as a load of dynamite ready to go off at any time. To outsiders, Allen Iverson would be the obvious choice. But Karl seldom if ever thinks the way the average person does. So after the Atkins injury, Karl set about trying to build justification for Anthony Carter being the floor general, with Iverson being the second in command.

In the four seasons prior to this one, Carter played more than a trivial amount in just two seasons, 2004-05 and 2005-06. In those two seasons, out of 164 games, Carter played in just 111 games, averaging 12 minutes a game. In the other two seasons, Carter hardly played at all in the NBA. This season, after informally being named Co-Captain along with Iverson, Carter has been averaging almost 30 minutes a game, more than in any year of his career, which began in 1999-2000. His previous high in minutes per game was in that first year, 1999-2000, in Miami, when he played 23.5 minutes a game. The point I am making is that Karl has gone off the deep end with his glorification of Anthony Carter, just like he did last year with Steve Blake. Minutes that should have been distributed among J.R. Smith, Bobby Jones, Linas Kleiza, and Yakhouba Diawara have all been monopolized by Carter.

As with Blake, Boykins, and others that Karl has latched on to before, Carter’s performance, while decent, is not close to justifying his big scale playing time. To give someone who has never been regarded as anything more than a decent player the minutes of a Manu Ginobili is the kind of mistake that you see George Karl make time and time again.

As for Iverson, Karl thinks of him as the soul or heart of the Nuggets offense and, arguably, of the team as a whole. But Karl thinks that Iverson is too intense a competitor and too blue collar to be able to handle the official floor general duties of a Karl coached team. So that is why Carter has been the official floor general, while Iverson has actually produced the goods that have allowed the Nuggets to win 14 of their first 22 games. Karl does not understand that, aside from having the heart of a champion, Iverson is also one of the most intelligent basketball players playing the game right now. A.I. always seems to know intuitively how he should adjust how he is playing for a particular game. But he has little experience in looking at the big picture that is needed for managing a team as a whole, and he, as was shown so well in the Spurs playoff series, is subject to being made to look bad when he is out there making things up on the fly against a really good team.

Karl’s “floor general” position does not include coaching duties like what drills are run in practice and what plays are run off time outs and in other situations. So Iverson is fully qualified to be Karl’s official “floor general,” instead of just the unofficial one. Shame on George Karl for relying on Iverson to win games, but for not giving him either the full respect due to him, or the offensive schemes needed to make his extremely hard work pay off with more wins more reliably.

And what is Karl going to do with his Anthony Carter obsession when Chucky Atkins returns about two weeks from now or so? We wait nervously to find out, because I have not studied Karl long enough to know what happens when his floor general is a substitute for an intended starter. My best guess would be that Atkins will not be given the playing time that would be his automatically with most other coaches. In other words, he will pay some kind of penalty for having the nerve to get injured on a team coached by George Karl. As Nuggets fans, let’s hope that the spirits cut us a break and that George Karl does not muck up the return of Chucky Atkins too badly.

ALERT STATUS PROBLEMS
As of December 9, 2007

The Nuggets are under an unusually dangerous and damaging alert status, so the following update is provided.

INJURIES
1. Nene injury 9 Points
2. Chucky Atkins injury 7 Points
4. Steven Hunter injury 3 Points

UNEXPECTED STAR PLAYER PERFORMANCE PROBLEMS
1. Carmelo Anthony a little off from recent years and a little inconsistent 5 Points

2. Inability of Melo and Najera to give Camby enough rebounding and defending support inside: 5 Points

BAD OR INADEQUATE COACHING
1. George Karl over relies on his starters and won’t play the non-starters enough: 5-20 Points. The severity varies depending on the circumstances, mainly Karl’s beliefs and moods, and whether the other team is playing well enough to take advantage of the Nuggets playing with not enough breathers. Karl will normally be in the 5-13 range, but it could spike to as much as 20 in the event of the benching of a major player such as Kenyon Martin. The current points reported are for the use, or should I say the misuse, of the reserves for the most recent games, with the most weight being given to the game being reported on here. The bad use of reserves score for this game is 9 points.

2. Lack of adequate offensive schemes: 7 Points. This would be up to 17 points, except that Iverson reduces the damage. Another way of describing this is that the team has failed to decide whether it wants Melo alone, Iverson alone, Melo and Iverson together, or neither of them to be firstly responsible for scoring enough points to keep the Nuggets in the game. If it were neither, I call the name of that strategy the "share the wealth" strategy.

INTENSITY, HUSTLE, AND HEART
1. The Nugget’s intensity, hustle and heart is lacking: 0 Points. It’s not anywhere near bad as some fans who are panicking think it is. This is a relatively small problem.

TOTAL PROBLEM POINTS: 45, which constitutes YELLOW ALERT.

YELLOW ALERT (40-54): Minor damage is occurring to the season. The entire season is under medium threat. Beating quality teams is much more difficult and will be pretty rare. About 1/2 of all wins against good teams will now be losses. Beating mid-level teams is a little more difficult. About 1/4 of games that would be wins against mid-level teams will now be losses. Beating low level teams is still relatively easy, but no longer almost a sure bet. A good team like the Nuggets has become in between a good team and a mid-level team when it is under this alert.

RESERVE WATCH
It’s under development. The complications involved explain why (a) there are no formal statistics anywhere on the internet on the subject of how much non-starters contribute to different teams and (b) why coaches are not compared statistically the way players are. There are a lot of variables that come into the use of reserves that interfere with the objective of judging their use. Statisticians call this “statistical noise,” and if you have a substantial amount of it, then what you are trying to do with your statistics becomes very difficult or next to impossible.

GEORGE KARL CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM RATING (Scale of 0 to 10)
2.0 He’s making a run for the exits.

ESPN PLAYER RATINGS FOR THIS GAME:
You can tell how well they played at a glance. Here is the formula for the ESPN rating of a player:

Points + Rebounds + 1.4*Assists + Steals + 1.4*Blocks - .7*Turnovers + # of Field Goals Made +1/2*# of 3-pointers Made - .8*# of Missed Field Goals - .8*# of Missed Free Throws + .25 *# of Free Throws Made

All players on each team who played at least 7 minutes are shown. The number after “game,” is how well the player did in this game, whereas the number after “season” is that player’s overall average for the entire season.
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NUGGETS
Kenyon Martin: Game 44.8 Season 19.9
Allen Iverson: Game 40.8 Season 40.3
Anthony Carter: Game 36.4 Season 21.1
Marcus Camby: Game 34.1 Season 32.8
Carmelo Anthony: Game 26.2 Season 36.6
Linas Kleiza: Game 10.8 Season 16.4
J.R. Smith: Game 8.7 Season 15.6

Yakhouba Diawara: Did Not Play-Coach’s Decision
Bobby Jones: Did Not Play-Coach’s Decision
Jelani McCoy: Did Not Play-Coach’s Decision
Von Wafer: Did Not Play-Coach's Decision

Eduardo Najera: Did Not Play 7 minutes-Injury
Nene: Did Not Play-Injury
Chucky Atkins: Did Not Play-Injury
Steven Hunter: Did Not Play-Injury

KINGS
John Salmons: Game 41.6 Season 26.0
Beno Udrih: Game 40.4 Season 24.9
Francisco Garcia: Game 31.5 Season 20.4
Mikki Moore: Game 25.5 Season 14.4
Ron Artest: Game 24.9 Season 33.4
Brad Miller: Game 13.4 Season 24.9
Kenny Thomas: Game 2.0 Season 6.0
Quincy Douby: Game 1.5 Season 5.7
Spencer Hawes: Game -0.8 Season 6.3

NOTE: these stats do not correct for the big differences in playing times. Players with small minutes would get a higher rating if they had more minutes.

OBSERVATIONS ON RATINGS:
With injures to Kevin Martin, Mike Bibby, and Shareef Abdur-Rahim, the Kings needed some big performances from little used players, but they got none at all. There just isn’t enough depth on the Kings squad to deal effectively with the multiple injury situation they have. The loss of Kevin Martin alone is pure devastation for Sacramento.

This is almost certainly the first game in the Carmelo Anthony years in Denver that Melo has finished behind 4 other players in performance rank. I’ll explain what is going on with Carmelo Anthony and his role on the team in my next game report, the one for the December 12 game versus the Hornets.

Kenyon Martin’s minutes are no longer being limited to reduce the risk to his rehabbed knees. To the contrary, he is now, like most of George Karl’s starters, being given more minutes than he would get on the other teams. All worry about the knees aside, this was Kenyon Martin’s breakout game for the Nuggets, and it was certainly fantastic to see him lead the Nuggets for the first time. Congratulations to the Nuggets sports medicine and rehab teams for jobs very well done. Kenyon Martin is really back now!

NUGGET’S PLUS—MINUS
This tells you how the score changed while a player was on the court. All Nuggets who played at least 7 minutes are shown.

Linas Kleiza: +14
J.R. Smith: +8
Allen Iverson: +6
Kenyon Martin: +3
Marcus Camby: -5
Anthony Carter: -5
Carmelo Anthony: -9

OBSERVATIONS ON PLUS—MINUS
Good things seem to happen when Kleiza is on the court lately. J.R. Smith, for the second game in a row, did not produce that many goodies for the Nuggets, but at least the Nuggets did quite well while he was on the court, which should calm Karl down a little about J.R.’s mini slump. And also what you see here is some stark evidence of Carmelo Anthony being pushed aside by George Karl and Allen Iverson in favor of Kenyon Martin and the Lithuanian Kleiza. Melo’s big negative on the plus/minus shows that the on the fly playmaking the Nuggets are doing is leaving out Melo to some extent. All of a sudden, Iverson, Kenyon Martin, and Linas Kleiza seem to be more or less in charge of how the offense is run.

Melo has mellowed himself out of the dominant offensive role and become the odd man out. Ominously, neither the coach nor anyone else on the Nuggets is all that concerned at this time about what Melo’s role should be on the New Nuggets. I’ll have much more to say about this surprising yet predictable bad development for the Nuggets in the next game report.

NUGGETS MADE WHAT?
All Nuggets who played at least 7 minutes are shown.

Anthony Carter played 37 minutes and was 7/16, 0/1 on 3’s, and 3/4 from the line for 17 points, and he made 9 assists, 4 steals, 2 blocks, and 3 rebounds.

Linas Kleiza played 26 minutes and was 3/8, 1/2 on 3’s, and 2/3 from the line for 9 points, and he made 3 rebounds, 1 assist, and 1 steal.

J.R. Smith played 12 minutes and was 3/8, 0/5 on 3’s, and 3/3 from the line for 9 points, and he made 2 rebounds.

Kenyon Martin played 38 minutes and was 8/10 and 4/8 from the line for 20 points, and he made 12 rebounds, 5 blocks, 3 steals, and 1 assist.

Marcus Camby played 38 minutes and was 3/4 and 2/2 from the line for 8 points, and he made 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and 2 steals.

Carmelo Anthony played 39 minutes and was 5/16, 0/4 on 3’s, and 4/4 from the line for 14 points, and he made 7 rebounds, 3 blocks, 3 assists, and 1 steal.

Allen Iverson played virtually the whole game, 45 minutes, and was 7/16, 1/3 on 3’s, and 8/8 from the line for 23 points, and he made 10 assists, 4 rebounds, and 1 steal.

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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
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