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Tuesday, January 15, 2008

The Nuggets Lose to the Bobcats 119-116 Despite a Huge Marcus Camby Game

This Bobcats game was a repeat of the December 5 in Denver versus the Lakers, where Iverson scored 51 points on 18/27 shooting and with 8 assists, but the Coaches forgot to put Kleiza in the game, and Kobe Bryant and his strong cast of co-stars used the Kobe Bryant Offense to outfox the Nuggets and to steal the game. The Nuggets make it up as we go offense sputtered to a stall out in the 4th quarter in both that game and again in this Bobcats game. In the Lakers game, Iverson and Kobe were both superstars, but the Nuggets were at home and rested, while the Lakers were not. That was a game that was lost largely due to the lack of set plays that you can rely on to keep turnovers down and to prevent scoring from drying up completely, especially in the 4th quarter. Iverson’s game, which may end up being his very best this season, was squandered by the Nuggets with their soft, wishful thinking coaching, poor closing skills, and general lack of intelligence and strategy.

Fast forward to this Bobcats game, and you find that nothing has changed in the past month. In this one, Marcus Camby was the superstar and even more than that, with 23 rebounds, 6 blocks, and 6 assists, to go with 20 points on 7/14 shooting, with 6/6 from the line to boot in a year when he has been missing a lot of free throws. But the Nuggets squandered this once or twice a season type of game from Camby. Last time it was Kleiza due to coaching error and this time the key player missing was Nene, due to his health problem. Nene has had some type of tumor removed and is awaiting results of tests to see whether or not the tumor was malignant. Since George Karl did play J.R. Smith to some extent, this game was not lost due to any huge rotation blunders. But the lack of anything resembling an offensive system was again a huge factor in this loss, as the Nugget’s offense dissolved away into a morass of aimlessness and futility in the 4th quarter. The Nuggets led by 3 going into the 4th and after scoring just 17 points in the period, lost the game 119-116 to a Bobcats team that lacks all-star or superstar caliber players at the moment.

So it was if the Nuggets said to the Bobcats: “we have better players, and Camby is playing one of his very best games of the year tonight, but heck, we don’t really know what we are doing on offense, so why don’t you have this game, it will make your fans feel better anyway.” If a team could talk, this is what the Nuggets were saying, and it is sure a farce, isn’t it? If I’m Iverson or Camby, and my team lost the game I put everything I had on the court, am I going to have the maximum motivation needed for an encore in a more important game in the future? Very possibly not, so when you lose a game like this, you are paving the way for more losses that could have been wins in the future.

There is no excuse for squandering performances such as Iverson’s versus the Lakers and Camby’s in this game. If a player leaves it all out on the court and his team is a very talented, ambitious, and reasonably hard working one, the most likely reason why the game was lost was that the coaches did not do all their work, either before the game, during the game, or most likely both.

I hate to preach, but I have to in this case, and heck, this game was played in the Bible belt, so you will have to excuse me for doing a Baptist style game report. You never, ever want to lose a game like this, where your best players have played better than their best players, and you obviously could have won the game if you knew what you were doing on the basketball court. Gerald Wallace had a massive game, but it was offset by Camby’s massive game. Jason Richardson was no more than J.R. Smith on steroids. And Emeka Okafur was fouling and turning it over in the 4th quarter rather than scoring and blocking. Neither of them was in a position to actually win this game for the Bobcats, so the Nuggets had to blow the game offensively in order to lose, which is exactly what they did. The Bobcats are a decent team, but the Nuggets have more than enough talent to beat a team like the Bobcats, but they didn’t use the talent in a smart way at the critical time. Teams like the Spurs, Suns, Mavericks, and Lakers lose winnable games on occasion, but not at least they do so without an embarrassing lack of offensive style consistency.

Both teams were very shorthanded for this game, as the Injury Summary, a new feature whose time has definitely come, shows in detail. Starting with this report, the Injury Summary will be the first feature following the article part of the game report.

J.R. Smith, the best 3-point shooter for the Nuggets, should have played the whole 4th quarter, because the Nuggets were getting killed by the three-point shot and their offense was broken down, but he played only 8 minutes of it. Carter and Iverson were a combined 1/7 from downtown in this game. I’m afraid that it is nothing more than a pipe dream to think that Carter, who has been surprising from long range so far, can be a dependable three point shooter for the balance of the season, and especially in the playoffs.

The Bobcats dominated the 3-point shooting in this game and it is tough to win any game with the amount of dominance they had with these big money shots. Gerald Wallace, for the first time in his career, has a three point shot, which along with the arrival this year of Jason Richardson, who is one of the best 3-point shooters, has helped to make the Bobcats a decent 3-point shooting team, which is a big improvement from last year. The other two Bobcats on their “3-point squad” are SG Raymond Felton, who is working on his three, and Matt Carroll, who is already very good with his. The Bobcats were 10/26 or 38.5% from long range, whereas the Nuggets were a very poor 4/21, or 19.0%. J.R. Smith led the Nuggets on threes, and even he was just 2/6.

That’s a good lead-in to move on to The J.R. Smith Fiasco, Part 3. In part 1, which was in the Nuggets 118 Timberwolves 107 game report, I showed that the benching of J.R. Smith as of the 1st of the year was more obnoxious than most of George Karl’s benchings, many of which are very obnoxious, since Smith played extremely well in limited minutes in the last 4 games before his benching. I then went on to explain the most likely motivation of Karl for not giving Smith significant playing time, that he wants him to be traded to another team, against the wishes of the Denver front office and against the wishes of Smith himself. I then made a big attempt to explain many possible reasons why Karl has come to hate J.R. Smith to the point where he refuses to teach him or to play him in significant minutes.

In part 2, which was in the Nuggets 109 76’ers 96 game report, I showed, using just 2007-08 per time performance measures, including turnovers by the way, that Smith is one of the better players on the Nuggets despite his turnovers, even while being jerked around on playing time and being the only Nugget under a lot of pressure to try to get more playing time. Here is a quick summary of those:

Points: Smith is 3rd of all Nuggets
Points: Smith is 38th of all NBA players
Assists: Smith is 4th of all Nuggets
Steals: Smith is 4th of all Nuggets
Rebounds: Smith is 10th of all Nuggets
Turnovers: Smith is 13th of all Nuggets
Assist/Turnover Ratio: Smith is 8th of all Nuggets

Now in part 3, I explain why the Nuggets are extremely likely to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs unless Smith plays. First I will show a couple of advanced performance measures, where the individual things are combined together to give overall ratings and rankings.

From an advanced statistics site, here is an advanced but relatively simple per time performance measure called productivity.

Productivity = (Points +Rebounds + Assists + Blocks + Steals - Turnovers) / Minute

NUGGETS PRODUCTIVITY (PER 48 Minutes.)
1 Anthony 44.2
2 Iverson 41.3
3 Camby 41.3
4 Martin 34.1
5 Smith 34.1
6 Nene 33.6
7 Kleiza 32.6
8 Carter 28.3
9 Najera 27.4
10 Diawara 19.7
11 Hunter 19.7
12 Atkins 19.2
13 Wafer 14.9

Even though turnovers are included in this, Smith still comes out very high: 5th.

But what about missed shots? Last year, Smith was .441 in overall accuracy, but this year, he's .424, a substantial drop. But his 3-point accuracy has remained almost exactly the same, at a very high .390.

If you subtract missed shots and missed free throws from the productivity stat above, you get another per time performance measure called efficiency.

NUGGETS EFFICIENCY PER 48 MINUTES
Through the first 34 games of the season
1 Camby 33.9
2 Anthony 28.0
3 Iverson 27.6
4 Martin 24.0
5 Kleiza 22.6
6 Carter 22.2
7 Nene 21.8
8 Smith 21.6
9 Najera 20.3
10 Diawara 13.1
11 Hunter 9.9
12 Atkins 6.1
13 Wafer 1.4

Smith drops to 8th. Carter, Kleiza, and Martin move ahead of Smith when missed shots are added to the basic productivity performance measure.

Smith's decline in non-3-point shooting from last season to this, while small, has given Coach Karl another justification for the benching. The huge dilemma for the Nuggets, though, is that you can't win a Western Conference playoff series without at rock bottom an average 3-point shooting squad, and Smith is the best 3-point shooter on a poor 3-point shooting team.

The Nuggets will not win a playoff series unless J.R. Smith is ready to and allowed to, in substantial playoff minutes, sink threes while keeping his missed shots and turnovers at a rate no worse than his average since he came on to the Nuggets. But Smith will not be ready unless he gets regular playing time, with about 18 minutes a game the safe minimum. The Nuggets will be easy to defeat in the playoff unless George Karl becomes less hostile toward J.R. Smith.

Even forgetting about the crucial 3-point scoring aspect, and after missed shots are factored in, Smith is still the 8th most efficient Nugget, only slightly behind Kleiza, Carter, and Nene, and still ahead of Najera. So even if you forget about the 3-point shooting aspect, (which is a heavy bias against Smith) but include all the missed shots, Smith's efficiency tells you that he should definitely never ever be deep benched unless the team wants another team to pick him up.

The problem is, and it's a whopper, is that the Nuggets are a bad three-point shooting team without J.R. Smith, pure and simple. Does anyone think, for example, after the Suns recently schooled the Nuggets with long range shooting that they will not do exactly the same thing if they meet up with the Nuggets in the playoffs?

If Smith is held out, the Nuggets will be the only bad 3-point shooting team in the Western Conference playoffs, with the possible exception of the Jazz. And the Jazz have acquired Kyle Korver to try to avoid the fate that faces the Nuggets without Smith. They knew it would have been futile to go up against the Spurs or Suns this year without a better 3-point shooting squad.

If I were you, I wouldn't put much hope on Najera and Carter sinking the necessary threes under heavy playoff pressure. Nor would I put much hope even on Kleiza or Iverson for that matter. They can hit some, but they can't get enough of them.

As for Carmelo Anthony, he had an outstanding 3-point shot for Team USA, but the distance of the three is slightly less in international basketball. But still, his drop-off in long range shooting from international to NBA ball is huge and makes no sense. So along with playing Smith, the Nuggets desperately need to get Melo to attempt and to hit more threes.

Every playoff team in the West needs solid 3-point shooters. I just checked the current list of the top 120 3-point shooters in the NBA ranked by percentage made. Since there are 30 teams in the NBA, the average team should have 4 players on this list. But as you would suspect, many of the West Conference playoff teams have 5 or even, in the case of the Warriors, 6 capable 3-point shooters.

The Nuggets have 5 to start with. Smith is the best 3-point shooter on the Nuggets. If you take him out, you are left with just 4, so you are short 1 against most of the good teams you might play in the playoffs.

More importantly, check the ranks of the Nugget's five good three point shooters, within the group of 120:

Smith is #34
Najera is #69
Iverson is #90
Kleiza is #105
Anthony is #114

As you can see, the Nuggets are bunched near the bottom of the ranked list of 3-point shooters. The Nuggets have exactly one among the top 60, and barely 3 among the top 90.

If you remove the Nugget's best, Smith, from this lineup, you have done very heavy damage to the 3-point capability of the team. What do you have left? The worst 3-point shooting playoff team, and by a wide margin against everyone except maybe the Jazz even with Korver.

Here are the solid 3-point shooters on the other potential playoff teams.

# of SOLID THREE POINT SHOOTERS BY % ACCURACY BY TEAM
Spurs: Barry, Bowen, Bonner, Ginobili, Finley
Lakers: Fisher, Farmar, Radnamovic, Bryant
Suns: Nash, Bell, Barbosa, Hill, Marion
Mavericks: Terry, Howard, Nowitzki, Stackhouse
Jazz: Williams, Okur, Korver
Warriors: Harrington, Azubuike, Peitrus, Davis, Barnes, Jackson
Trailblazers: Jones, Blake, Webster, Jack, Roy
Hornets: Stojakovic, Peterson, Paul, Butler, Jackson
Rockets: Head, Battier, McGrady, Alston
Nuggets: Smith, Najera, Iverson, Kleiza, Anthony

Can anyone name any player on this list other than Smith, who is benched now, or who has a good chance of being benched for the playoffs? Seriously, for real, is there even one?

Why should the Nuggets be the only team that disarms before it goes into battle?

INJURY SUMMARY: PLAYERS WHO WERE NOT AVAILABLE

NUGGETS
Chucky Atkins: He was diagnosed with a right groin/abdominal strain (Sports Hernia) on 1/9 and underwent successful surgery on 1/11. He is expected to be sidelined a minimum of eight weeks.
Nene: He has taken an indefinite leave to tend to a tumor growth.
Eduardo Najera: A right elbow hyper-extension. The sore elbow is affecting his shooting.

BOBCATS
Sean May: He will miss the season after undergoing microfracture knee surgery in early October.
Adam Morrison: He had season-ending surgery on his left knee to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament.
Othello Harrington: He has a knee injury, and will probably miss the rest of the season.
Derek Anderson: Bruised knee.

ALERT STATUS PROBLEMS
As of January 15, 2008

The Nuggets are under an ORANGE ALERT, on account of the following problems.

INJURIES & SUSPENSIONS
1. Chucky Atkins injury 18 points
2. Nene illness 14 points
3. Eduardo Najera injury 10 points

SEVERE AND UNEXPECTED PLAYER PERFORMANCE PROBLEMS
There are none at this time.

BAD OR INADEQUATE COACHING
1. George Karl has completely benched one or more players who should not be benched due to his incompetence, hatred of the player, and/or his having the ulterior motive of forcing the player off the team. The problem points would be the points you would have if the player were injured.

No one is currently completely benched who should not be: 0 points.

2. One or more players are partially benched; their minutes are being artificially limited due to abstract and subjective factors that the Denver Coaches believe are more important than performance on the court.

J.R. Smith was partially benched: 6 points.

2. George Karl over relies on his starters and won’t play the non-starters enough: 1-12 Points. The severity varies depending on the circumstances, mainly Karl’s beliefs and moods, and whether the other team is playing well enough to take advantage of the Nuggets playing with not enough breathers, with too many fouls, and so forth. The current points reported are for the use, or should I say the misuse, of the reserves for the most recent games, with the most weight being given to the game being reported on here.

The bad use of reserves score for this game is 3 points.

3. The Nuggets have extreme inconsistency and a truly excessive number of turnovers because they have neither a system nor even a partial system on offense. The damage caused by this would be up to 20 points, except that Iverson reduces the damage. In broad terms, the team has failed to decide whether it wants Melo alone, Iverson alone, Melo and Iverson together, or neither of them to be firstly responsible for scoring enough points to keep the Nuggets in games. If it were neither, I call the name of that strategy the "share the wealth" strategy. More specifically, the Nuggets lack enough tried and tested offensive plays that they can run game after game, perfecting them as they go, and having everyone automatically on the same page for those plays.

Lack of an adequate number of offensive plays and schemes: 8 Points

INTENSITY, HUSTLE, AND HEART
1. The Nugget’s intensity, hustle and heart are lacking: 0 Points. It’s not anywhere near as bad as some fans sometime think it is.

TOTAL PROBLEM POINTS: 59, which constitutes ORANGE ALERT.

ORANGE ALERT (55-74): Moderate damage is occurring to the season. The entire season is under serious threat, and you can just about forget about beating quality teams. About 3/4 of all wins against good teams will now be losses. Beating mid-level teams is much more difficult. About 1/2 of games against mid-level teams that would have been won will be lost under this alert. Even poor teams can often beat an otherwise good team that is under this alert. Close to 1/4 of games against low level teams that would have been won will be lost under this alert. A good team has been reduced to being a mid-level team, at best, when it is under this alert.

OBSERVATIONS ON THE ALERT STATUS
Injury disaster has once again struck the Nuggets, with Chucky Atkins, Nene, and Eduardo Najera out. The loss to Charlotte of what would have been an easily won game had the alert status been green or grey illustrates the accuracy of the alert system.

RESERVE WATCH
Number of Players Who Played at Least 6 Minutes: Nuggets 8 Bobcats 8
Number of Players Who Played at Least 10 Minutes: Nuggets 8 Bobcats 7

Nuggets Non-Starters Points: 19
Bobcats Non-Starters Points: 34

Nuggets Non-Starters Rebounds: 12
Bobcats Non-Starters Rebounds: 10

Nuggets Non-Starters Assists: 4
Bobcats Non-Starters Assists: 3

This feature is under development, and it will be gradually expanded. The complications involved explain why there are no formal statistics anywhere on the internet on the subject of how much non-starters contribute to different teams, and also why coaches are not compared statistically the way players are. There are a lot of variables that come into the use of reserves that interfere with the objective of judging their use. Statisticians call this “statistical noise,” and if you have a substantial amount of it, then what you are trying to do with your statistics becomes very difficult or next to impossible.

GEORGE KARL CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAM RATING (Scale of 0 to 10)
3: He's hiding under his seat on the sidelines

PLAYER RATINGS FOR THIS GAME:
You can tell how well every player played at a glance. Of the advanced statistics I have seen on the internet, this one seems to have the best balance between offense and defense. Many other advanced statistics are biased in favor of good defenders, and do not reflect the heavy importance of offense in basketball. Here is the formula for the ESPN rating of a player:

Points + Rebounds + 1.4*Assists + Steals + 1.4*Blocks - .7*Turnovers + # of Field Goals Made +1/2*# of 3-pointers Made - .8*# of Missed Field Goals - .8*# of Missed Free Throws + .25 *# of Free Throws Made

All players on each team who played at least 5 minutes are shown. The number after “game,” is how well the player did in this game, whereas the number after “season” is that player’s overall average for the entire season.

NUGGETS PLAYER RATINGS
Marcus Camby: Game 61.3 Season 32.9
Carmelo Anthony: Game 48.1 Season 39.0
Allen Iverson: Game 34.4 Season 41.1
Kenyon Martin: Game 25.3 Season 19.8
J.R. Smith: Game 18.2 Season 15.2
Linas Kleiza: Game 10.0 Season 17.3
Anthony Carter: Game 9.8 Season 20.9
Yakhouba Diawara: Game 8.2 Season 5.6

Chucky Atkins: Did Not Play-Injury
Nene: Did Not Play-Injury
Eduardo Najera: Did Not Play-Injury

Steven Hunter: Did Not Play-Coach’s Decision
Von Wafer: Did Not Play-Coach’s Decision

BOBCATS PLAYER RATINGS
Gerald Wallace: Game 61.4 Season 34.5
Emeka Okafur: Game 40.6 Season 26.9
Matt Carroll: Game 27.9 Season 13.1
Jason Richardson: Game 26.6 Season 31.4
Raymond Felton: Game 26.3 Season 25.5
Nazr Mohammed: Game 16.6 Season 14.8
Jeff McInnis: Game 13.3 Season 10.4
Jared Dudley: Game 9.7 Season 7.7

NOTE: these stats do not correct for the big differences in playing times. Players with small minutes would get a higher rating if they had more minutes.

OBSERVATIONS ON RATINGS:
Whoever gets the most points wins the game, something which, like when you ignore the forest for the trees, gets overlooked a little sometimes in thinking about and discussing players and games. The Bobcat’s three best three-point shooters, Wallace, Carroll, and Richardson, were all deadly from beyond the arc in this game, and aside from making a big impact toward winning a game, hitting a bunch of threes does wonders for your player rating, as it should.

Camby exactly matched Wallace, as both stormed their way to what will be one of their very biggest games of the year.

On the downside, the Nuggets had Kleiza and Carter playing much less productively than usual, while the Bobcats had everyone playing close to normal or better, so it is no surprise they won this game.

NUGGETS REAL PLAYER RATINGS—EXPLANATION
The Real Player Rating reflects reality better than the gross player rating, since it washes out differences in playing times among the players. The straight up player rankings are obviously heavily affected by how many playing minutes the various players get. With many teams, you can rely on the coach to give his various players roughly the playing time that makes the most sense for his team. Unfortunately, some coaches bring other factors besides actual performance into their rotation decisions. Therefore, it makes good sense to introduce a new and extremely important statistic that Nuggets 1 calls the Real Per Minute Player Rating. As the name implies, this is the gross ESPN player rating divided by the number of minutes. The statistic is called Real Player Rating for short.

This statistic allows anyone to see whether or not players who play only a small number of minutes are doing better than their low gross rating will indicate. You can spot diamond in the rough players who are not getting all the respect and playing time due to them. At the same time, it will allow anyone to see whether players with a lot of minutes are playing worse than, as well as, or better than their gross rating shows.

In summary, the Real Player Rating allows the reader, at a glance, to see exactly how well each player is doing without regard to playing time, which is subject to coaching error and subjective and less important factors such as a player's personality. The Real Player Rating provides the real truth-pure knowledge not available anywhere else.

SCALE FOR THE REAL PLAYER RATINGS
1.60 More Rare Superstar Plus-Above Normal Even For Michael Jordan
1.40 1.60 Superstar Performance Plus-A Michael Jordan Type Game
1.20 1.40 Spectacular Performance-Star Plus
1.05 1.20 Star Performance
0.90 1.05 Outstanding Game
0.80 0.90 Very Good Game
0.70 0.80 Good Game
0.60 0.70 Mediocre Game
0.50 0.60 Poor Game
0.40 0.50 Very Poor Game
0.25 0.40 Bad Game-Near Disaster
Less 0.25 Total Disaster

NUGGETS-BOBCATS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
All players who played 5 minutes or more are included. Any player who played only 5-9 minutes is noted.

1. Marcus Camby, Den 1.572
2. Gerald Wallace, Cha 1.364
3. Carmelo Anthony, Den 1.203
4. Emeka Okafor, Cha 1.160
5. Jared Dudley, Cha 1.078…Dudley played just 9 minutes.
6. Matt Carroll, Cha 1.033
7. J.R. Smith, Den 0.958
8. Jason Richardson, Cha 0.887
9. Allen Iverson, Den 0.782
10. Kenyon Martin, Den 0.723
11. Nazr Mohammed, Cha 0.722
12. Raymond Felton, Cha 0.658
13. Yakhouba Diawara, Den 0.586
14. Jeff McInnis, Cha 0.532
15. Linas Kleiza, Den 0.526
16. Anthony Carter, Den 0.327

OBSERVATIONS ON THE REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Marcus Camby was the one superstar of this game, and he continues to lead the NBA by a wide margin in blocks. And he is second only to Dwight Howard of the Magic in rebounding, with 1 rebound fewer than Howard per game so far. To say that Camby is on course to be the defensive player of the year again would be an understatement.

PF Gerald Wallace and Carmelo Anthony were spectacular, but C Omeka Okafur and SF Jared Dudley, in limited minutes off the bench, were stars for the Bobcats. Two backup shooting guards were outstanding in this game: Matt Carroll for the Bobcats and J.R. Smith for the Nuggets.

Iverson was not as outstanding as usual, and Kleiza was off, while Anthony Carter disappeared from the radar screen as soon as I jinxed him by calling him Iverson #2 and singing his praises after his spectacular game against the Magic. Unlike last year’s Iverson #2, Earl Boykins, this one is not consistently good, which is a huge signal that the Nuggets are going to be in great difficulty at the point guard position for the playoffs, unless one of the sick men, Chucky Atkins, is able to storm back into shape. Atkins is no Kidd, Paul, or Nash, but if he ever gets back into form, at least you know the bottom is not going to fall out of his game just because he’s up against a monster team like the Spurs or the Suns. Unfortunately, you do know that the bottom is likely to fall out in the case of Carter.

NUGGET’S PLUS—MINUS
This tells you how the score changed while a player was on the court. All Nuggets who played at least 10 minutes are shown.

J.R. Smith: +9
Linas Kleiza: +7
Yakhouba Diawara: +6
Carmelo Anthony: -1
Anthony Carter: -4
Marcus Camby: -4
Allen Iverson: -12
Kenyon Martin: -16

OBSERVATIONS ON PLUS—MINUS
There are right now undoubtedly general managers who are scheming up ways they might take advantage of the rift between Smith and his Coach in order to extract Smith from the Nuggets and onto their team with the least amount of expense possible. In other words, they are going to try to see whether they can get the Nuggets to part with Smith for less than what he is worth. Here you see one snapshot of the value of Smith. One thing he can do often is keep you in a game where your defense leaves a lot to be desired, due to a major injury for example. Someone else may have to win it for you, but Smith can put you into position to win a high scoring game. Diawara played well defensively, and it was a tough night for Kenyon Martin, who hit a few shots but did not seem to play at anywhere near his usual explosive level.

NUGGETS MADE WHAT?
All Nuggets who played at least 5 minutes are shown. The order is from lowest to highest in real player rating.

Anthony Carter played 30 minutes and was 3/9 and 1/5 on 3’s for 7 points, and he made 4 assists and 2 rebounds.

Linas Kleiza played 19 minutes and was 1/5, 1/4 on 3’s, and 2/4 from the line for 5 points, and he made 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 steal.

Yakhouba Diawara played 14 minutes and was 1/3 and 0/1 on 3’s for 2 points, and he made 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Kenyon Martin played 35 minutes and was 6/10 for 12 points, and he made 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and 1 steal.

Allen Iverson played for virtually the whole game, 44 minutes, and was 9/20, 0/3 on 3’s, and 5/6 from the line for 23 points, and he made 6 assists, 2 rebounds, and 1 steal.

J.R. Smith played 19 minutes and was 5/9, 2/6 on 3’s, and 0/2 from the line for 12 points, and he made 4 rebounds and 1 steal.

Carmelo Anthony played most of the game, 40 minutes, and was 12/19, 0/1 on 3’s, and 11/17 from the line for 35 points, and he made 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and 1 block.

Marcus Camby played 39 minutes and was 7/14 and 6/6 from the line for 20 points, and he made 23 rebounds, 6 blocks, and 6 assists.

NEXT UP
The next game will be Tuesday, January 15 in Atlanta to play the Hawks at 5 pm mountain time. The Nuggets will be playing on back to back nights, while the Hawks will not be.

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Bleacher Report Open Posting Site
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Pro Sports Daily NBA Forum
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Hoops Hype NBA Forum
Armchair GM Open Posting Site
SportsTwo NBA Forum
NBA Dimensions NBA Forum
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NBA Boards NBA Forum
NBA Wire NBA Forum
KFFL NBA Forum

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The Fox NBA board is very low traffic, and the MSNBC NBA board doesn't exist anymore. The CBS Sports NBA Message Board is a layered site; you can NOT post topics nor expect to be considered seriously there until you have spent a few years posting there. We do not recommend CBS Sports. So the only real, fully open NBA forum hosted by a big corporation is the ESPN message board. Be forewarned though that the ESPN board is dominated by very young fans who make very short comments. On the other hand, it is a high traffic site, so we won't stop you from posting a Quest link at ESPN if you want to.

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LAKERS SIGN IN HOLLYWOOD

LAKERS SIGN IN HOLLYWOOD
The Nuggets are scary, but Lakers fans can breathe a sigh of relief when they think of who coaches them!

>>>I WANT TO STICK WITH THE WAY OTHER SITES PRESENT POSTS
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>>ALTERNATIVE HOME PAGES
There are three home pages, all of which have all of the Reports but which have completely different features appearing on the sidebar and below the one Report that is shown at a time. These pages have been designed so that they fully load in about 10 seconds (no more super long load times we used to be known for.)

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>>REPORT READERS: Complete freedom to rapidly choose and read what you need or want to read. The latest 40 Reports are found near the top of all three of the primary home pages (linked to just above) while Reports #41-#100 are found in three separate readers placed at various points down the page on all three primary home pages.

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>>LATEST 25 Reports: Direct links to the latest 25 Reports (with no truncated titles as you find with the poorly designed Google archive). This is located near the very bottom of this page.

>>GOOGLE ARCHIVE you will find this, with Reports shown by week not very far below.

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TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT HOW LONG QUEST FOR THE RING HAS BEEN KEEPING IT REAL

The above shows you in two different ways the exact amount of time since The Quest for the Ring began to completely explain how the Quest is won, while having as much fun as possible at the expense of basketball pretenders and player haters. The first panel shows how long it has been in each of seven units. The second panel shows how long it has been in the more usual "remainder" way.

QUEST FOR THE RING SOMETIMES GOES INTO HIATUS
Regardless of any temporary unavoidable absences, the Quest is in this project to explain in detail for the very long term--indefinitely, for many, many, many years ahead. At this writing we have the equivalent of 15 basketball books under our belt and we plan on doing dozens more. Count on us being right where basketball is at, which is here, actually.

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QUEST IS FREE BUT ABOUT 3 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME CAN GET YOU MORE OF IT

Although there is a guaranteed minimum rate of Report production regardless of traffic, it is in your power to help increase the number of and frequency of Quest Reports. All Quest sites are developed and produced according to both superseding criteria and site traffic. Like all sites started in recent years, Quest receives very little help from Google and other search engines. The search engines mostly serve to keep the older, popular sites popular; they preserve the same old, same old status quo.

The amount of reporting and the frequency of Quest Reports could easily be double what it is were site traffic higher. If Quest obtained the traffic we know it deserves, than production would go from the equivalent of roughly three books about basketball a year to at least five and to as many as six books a year!

WE NEED A GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT 3 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME
Please take three or four minutes every now and then to recommend Quest and post links to Quest on your favorite sports and other sites. In other words, wherever possible use us to back up what you are posting and writing. The resulting automatic increase of traffic will in turn increase the resources that go in to producing Quest home page Reports. After helping us, feel free to e-mail how you helped and we will throw some Internet love back to your Internet hangout. The email address is thequestforthering1. This is a gmail address, so you use @gmail.com after that address.

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WORD IS BOND

WELCOME TO THE QUEST--THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT HERE

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REAL ZONE
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.

Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.


A SMALL SAMPLE OF CURRENT AND SOON TO COME QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and Why the 2010 Los Angeles Lakers, the 2010 Cleveland Cavaliers, and the 2010 Boston Celtics Win or Lose in the 2010 Playoffs
--The right "amount of" LeBron James
--How players we know deserve to win a first or second Ring can get one, highly talented players such as Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Rajon Rondo, and Dwyane Wade.
--How and why the Denver Nuggets Franchise has repeatedly fooled the public, and possibly themselves for that matter. (No, we still have not completely finished with the Nuggets, thanks to how successful they were in 2008-09, albeit there was no chance of a Championship; Continuing, much done already)
--How and why much of what you may think you know about Allen Iverson is dead wrong (Continuing, much done already)
--How and why the playoffs are something completely different from the regular season, and why your team may be simply not prepared for them despite a lot of regular season wins

A SMALL SAMPLE OF ALREADY COMPLETED QUEST FOR THE RING REAL ZONE TOPICS
--How and why Carmelo Anthony has been downsized due to a quest for "well-roundedness," and why this is really bad
--How and why the owner of the Nuggets shortchanged and cheated his team out of a possible Championship
--How and why being physical alone can not win you a Championship
--How and why the Nuggets' high fouling defense will take them only so far
--How and why George Karl is doing more harm than good with respect to J.R. Smith
--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense

UNIQUE SITE DESIGN
The Quest is organized in a completely different way from what you are used to on the internet. We have combined the best features of the blog and the conventional web site formats, the latter being the norm for large organizations. However, since we do not like the idea of using flash to "wow" visitors, we do not use flash except within video and other discrete components. So we are state of the art in terms of expanding the power of visitors to get exactly what they want very quickly, but we do not have the latest flash gadgetry just to "keep up with the Joneses". More broadly, you will find that Quest for the Ring never seeks to keep up with the Joneses, simply because the Joneses never had the nerve and the intelligence to do what we do.

2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
Just before the 2009-10 season tipped, the very large number of features and links to important resources were strategically reorganized and placed within an easy to use and clearly labelled section system. So ended the era of the rapidly developed, sprawling and slightly disorganized Quest, and so began the era of the big but under careful control and extremely well organized and professional Quest for the Ring.

The Quest Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into the new sections as of November 2009. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining thing you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.

Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for those who know what they are looking for and wish to find and engage the appropriate link, But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience. The Quest home page is big enough and chock loaded enough that link hunting is not absolutely necessary the way it normally is at many other basketball sites.

THERE MUST BE TEN WAYS TO READ REPORTS [PAUL SIMON LOL]
There are close to ten ways to find out about, select, and read Quest Reports! The standard, traditional blog presentation is available as one of the many ways to choose, access, and read reports. On the Home Page, only one report loads in the traditional format in order to keep this page as quick loading as possible.
See the "Total Freedom of Navigation" section for complete details about how to find, choose, and read reports.

One key place to find Older Reports is on sequentially numbered url's thequestforthering2.blogspot.com, thequestforthering3.blogspot.com, and so forth.

THE QUEST USER GUIDE VERSUS an about page
Other sites most often have undeveloped and limited in scope "about pages" which is usually all they have for what we call a "User Guide". Our User Guide material is a vast improvement, quantitatively and qualitatively, over a mere "about page" While many other sites don't help their visitors to make the best use of the content, we do. Also, the User Guide is chock loaded with invitations to visitors to participate in all kinds of ways, including for example advertising for free, link exchange, and getting a team site supported by Quest.

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MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS

Note: This is generally a once a year, end of season Report. For many teams and players, more recent ratings are often available.

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
The above are a few hightlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.

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