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Thursday, January 14, 2010

Darth Vader Sets out to Destroy The Quest for the Ring, Part Two

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As promised in the prequel to this review of the only Quest Report in history to be declared to be in error after publication, we are now going to go over each of the sixteen reasons given in that Report for why the Denver Nuggets were supposedly, definitely not going to win any playoff series in 2009. They did win a series, and we actually can see why if we find out that somehow Darth and the Nuggets avoided most of these sixteen things from happening.

The idea from that January 14 Report that turned out to be very wrong was that although not all of the 16 things would go wrong for the Nuggets in the playoffs, enough of them would go wrong that the Nuggets would fail to win a series. Technically, the Nuggets were not supposed to win more than two playoff games; whereas they actually won ten.

Reasons one through six were already covered in Part One. This part features reasons seven through ten. Part three will cover reasons eleven through sixteen. A summary and conclusion for the incident will either be at the end of part three or in a separate part four. The error will be reviewed one last time and we will summarize all of the corrections and all of the measures taken so that nothing of this sort ever happens again.

Later, another series that will consist of either two or three parts will look at the same sixteen factors and see if they caused the Nuggets loss to the best team of the West in 2009: the Lakers.

INTRODUCTION
If you don't know already from reading this previous Report, George Karl and probably some unknown cronies of his are the Darth Vader of basketball, laugh out loud. Just as in the movies, old Darth can really do some unexpected damage and put a lot of fear into the atmosphere when he gets lucky with one of his diabolical schemes.

REASON SEVEN WHY THE NUGGETS WERE TO NOT WIN ANY PLAYOFF SERIES

More broadly, Karl is well known for having a total breakdown of communication
and relations with at least one of his players, usually tactlessly and publicly,
during every playoff series he has ever been in. If the player who Karl has the
falling out with is not Smith, it will be someone else. So the opponent will be
doing everything possible to make any developing rift between Karl and one of
the Nuggets worse, so as to literally and perhaps completely remove that Nugget
from the playoffs.


HOW REASON SEVEN PLAYED OUT
This simply didn’t happen. Karl knew this season was his one true coaching success story and he wasn’t going to have a big argument with one of his players to spoil it. Another thing showing that Karl was on his best behavior was that he was more generous with playing time for reserves and for younger players than in God only knows how many years. By contrast, already this year, Coach Karl has cut back on the amount of playing time available to non-starters from the generous amount that was given last year.

In fairness to Quest, due to all the good vibes coming out of the Nuggets camp during 2008-09, we didn’t think this was among the most likely reasons why the Nuggets would fail to win a playoff series, but we had to include it given Karl’s problematic history in this area. It was even more of a long shot than we thought and it did not happen or come close to happening.

REASON EIGHT WHY THE NUGGETS WERE TO NOT WIN ANY PLAYOFF SERIES

The Nuggets’ opponent will have patience on offense and will not try to run into a brick wall by trying to pick up the pace against a team that relies heavily on very aggressive and energetic defending in general, and especially on aggressive and energetic man to man defending in the paint in particular. The opponent will keep the pace measured and use plenty of the 24 second clock. This will wear out the Nuggets extremely energetic defenders as the game wears on. Stunts and shortcuts on offense will not work well against a team that uses stunts on
defense.

HOW REASON EIGHT PLAYED OUT
Well this reason did play out as forecast in one sense but not in another. All three of the Nuggets’ playoff opponents kept roughly the same pace they had in the regular season, which was very slow for New Orleans, average for Dallas, and fast pace for Los Angeles. But the reason did not play out insofar as the Nuggets’ defenders hardly ever “wore out”.

In many reports between the end of the Mavericks series and now, I have revised my view by softening my criticism of the 2008-09 Nuggets defense. I have in great detail in previous reports during July-November 2009 explained my new position on the high energy, high aggressiveness, and intentionally high fouling strategy.

Actually, prior to the 2008-09 season, I didn’t have a position, because I had never seen this defensive approach before and the combination of two reserves playing some of the best defense in the League (Chris Andersen and Renaldo Balkman) was uncharted waters too. It took a long-time veteran coach tired of the same old same old and apparently a wonk or two in the Denver front office to spring this on the unsuspecting basketball world. For a few months during 2008-09, I was naturally against it for all circumstances, but I changed my mind after the Nuggets demonstrated the effectiveness adequately.

There will be other strategies and approaches that are good enough to pick up extra regular season wins and in some cases a few extra playoff wins, but that are not good enough to get into or to win a Championship.

The Nuggets had a two-for here, because their primary offensive strategy, fast pace and fast breaks, are another strategy that will give you a few extra regular season wins and possibly an extra playoff win or two, but it will never win you a Ring.

I guess it’s realistic to use these strategies if you know for a fact you can’t win a Ring regardless of using them or not. I personally would not use a strategy or approach such as this if I was in charge, and nor would the majority of coaches and managers, but it can be theoretically justified.

As a brief summary of what we recommend now, I now fully endorse this in certain circumstances: when a team knows it has no chance to win a Ring, when it is not a highly skilled defense, when it has high energy, high motivation, no backing down kind of players, and when on offense it has good fast breaking capability.

You might call this a “building for the future strategy”. The team that uses it will get extra regular season wins from doing this and perhaps, as the Nuggets showed, even some playoff wins it would not otherwise have gotten. No, a team can not win a Ring while doing this barring a once in 300 years miracle, and it’s not the best defensive approach, but it is better than I thought, and if the team is not going to win a Ring anyway, it’s not really a bad defensive scheme.

Referees are simply incapable, unwilling, or both to ramp up their foul calls to the same extent that a team operating a high fouling defense makes the fouls. So the team running this strategy makes some gains “on the margin” when it prevents a score by fouling but the foul is not called. Some additional net gain is made when free throws are missed.

REASON NINE WHY THE NUGGETS WERE TO NOT WIN ANY PLAYOFF SERIES

Stay calm, cool, and collected; do not allow the Nuggets, anyone on the Nuggets,
or the referees to get under your skin. Tune them and their crowd out completely
and don’t worry about them and their rose colored glasses. Go about your
business with laser like focus. Certain teams have lost a game to the Nuggets in
the regular season so far due simply to losing their cool.

HOW REASON NINE PLAYED OUT
Laugh out loud. Chris Paul, the second best player in the NBA during 2008-09, allowed little old Daunte Jones to get under his skin to the point where he was not as effective a point guard as usual. Hornets Coach Byron Scott complained in public that Jones was a dirty player and that the Nuggets were basically playing fast and loose with the rules. The perception that Scott allowed the Nuggets to get under the skin of Chris Paul and also under his own skin most likely was one of the reasons why Scott was subsequently fired by the Hornets. Scott was fired very early in the 2009-10 regular season.

In the next series, not only did the Mavericks, their coaches, their owner, and most of their fans lose their cool to one extent or another due to the Nuggets’ aggressiveness and successful gaming of the referees during the series, but the NBA became worried that the series was going to blow up in some kind of a brawl. The NBA itself lost its cool, laugh out loud. For details, see this Report , especially the last half of that Report. For more than that, simply see other Reports in that series of Reports on the Mavericks-Nuggets series; in total there are nine Reports on that series.

When in game four, under instructions from a worried NBA front office the referees started handing out technical fouls left and right, the Mavericks didn’t realize the trap set up by the Nuggets and the League (who were not in cahoots though) they were walking into, they lost their cool and ended up, ironically, getting more technical and flagrant fouls called against them than the original perpetrators, the Nuggets did. It seems that just as “it’s always the second guy who gets caught,” when players are jostling on the court, I guess its always the second team that gets caught when entire teams are getting extra aggressive toward one another.

So overall, this possible reason why the Nuggets would lose did not at all play out, more or less the opposite happened.

REASON TEN WHY THE NUGGETS WERE TO NOT WIN ANY PLAYOFF SERIES
The opponent will make sure that their best and hottest jump shooters have
plenty of playing time and that, unlike J.R. Smith and Linas Kleiza, they have
plenty of confidence. The one automatic, easy way to beat the Nuggets is to
simply make your jump shots, or make the free throws if the Nuggets insist on
fouling you as they often do now days. The Nuggets are saying to you: "Ok, we
are going to run around all over and try to confuse your offense, we are going
to run at you all night, we are going to goal tend from time to time, we are
going to foul over and over and over, and we are especially going to man to man
defend you aggressively and well." To which your response is simply: "Fine, have
fun; we'll make our passes, our assists, and our shots, and all of your extra
effort and aggressiveness will not amount to a whole lot of benefit for you." I
repeat for emphasis that you must not forget to make your free throws, because
the Nuggets have actually won at least a couple of regular season games simply
because their opponent could not make enough free throws.

HOW REASON TEN PLAYED OUT
Let’s check what actually happened:

MAVERICKS-NUGGETS SERIES FREE THROWS
Game One: Free throws: Mavericks 9-13, Nuggets 25-36; Fouls Mavericks 29, Nuggets 19
Game Two: Free throws: Mavericks 23-30, Nuggets 31-40; Fouls Mavericks 28, Nuggets 20
Game Three: Free throws: Mavericks 40-49, Nuggets 32-40; Fouls Mavericks 27, Nuggets 34
Game Four: Free throws: Mavericks 36-43, Nuggets 32-44, Fouls Mavericks 29, Nuggets 29
Game Five: Free throws: Mavericks 22-29, Nuggets 17-22; Fouls Mavericks 22, Nuggets 25
Grand Total: Free throws: Mavericks 130-164, Nuggets 137-182; Fouls Mavericks 135 Nuggets 127

The Mavericks made almost 80 percent of their free throws, but the referees were not calling some of the fouls in games one and two in Denver, and nor was Denver making as many fouls as they often did in the regular season.

To their credit, in the Dallas series at least the Nuggets never technically ran a raw intentional fouling defense. It was a modified one;; the Nuggets would only start fouling more or less intentionally if they felt that their energetic and athletic defending was not going to be good enough by itself, and if they felt that the referees would cut them some breaks by not calling a few of the fouls. In games one and two, the Nuggets sensed they didn’t need to foul heavily, but when they went to Dallas for games three and four, it was a different story and the Nuggets clearly intentionally ran a high fouling strategy for those particular games.

The Mavericks made their free throws, but they didn’t get as many free throws as they should have gotten; they should have gotten at least 20 more of them. What about shooting and assisting; did the Mavericks, who did have a well run offense during the regular season, have their shooting and assisting negatively affected by the Nuggets defense or not?

MAVERICKS SHOOTING AND ASSISTING
Game One: Shooting 48.8%, Assists: 17
Game Two: Shooting 47.4%, Assists 23
Game Three: Shooting 40.0%, Assists 15
Game Four: Shooting 50.6%, Assists 17
Game Five: Shooting 51.4%, Assists 23

Series Average per Game: Shooting 47.64%, Assists 19
The Dallas Mavericks’ regular season shooting percentage was 46.2%, so they shot better against Denver than they did on average, so in accordance with this reason the Nuggets way of defending was not able to actually reduce the shooting effectiveness of their opponent.

On the other hand, the Mavericks averaged only 19 assists per game, a very bad number for a playoff team that has sites on winning Rings. During the regular season, the Mavericks made 21.7 assists per game, almost three more than they made against the Nuggets. In the regular, Dallas was 8th in assists, but against Denver, they made assists at rate that would have placed them 29th in the NBA, with only one team, the lowly Memphis Grizzlies, making fewer assists than 19 per game.

What the Mavericks’ assists pattern tells you is that the Nuggets’ unique and controversial high fouling defense did not as you might expect stop a good shooting team from making their shots in playoff games (when they were allowed by the Nuggets to shoot without a foul). But on the other hand, the Mavericks reacted to the high energy, high movement, and high athleticism aspects by passing less, which was absolutely devastating to the Mavericks’ chances to win the series. Had Rick Carlisle demanded that his team not worry so much about turnovers to the Nuggets’ defense, and to pass more and get more assists, they would have been able to be fully competitive in the series, and the result may very well have been a Dallas victory.

I was partly right and partly wrong with this reason. I was right to say that a lot of aggressiveness, fouling, and energy per se will not stop the other team from scoring efficiently. And I am right when I say that that kind of defense will never win you a Ring precisely because it won't reduce scoring percentage. But I was wrong in assuming that that type of defense will not slow down passing and assisting. It may slow down assisting and passing if the team being affected gets scared and starts passing less out of fear of turnovers and fast breaks coming the other way.

There is a crucial lesson here for everyone, especially coaches: never ever fail to monitor your teams’ passing and assisting, and make sure that your team is not so afraid of making turnovers that they cut down their passing and assisting when they encounter any kind of unusually hard charging defense. That is a trap you can fall into if you are not an expert coach. Rather, pay a price of a few more turnovers than usual to maintain your passing and assisting in general. Turnovers are seldom if ever going to spike up so much that you would have been better off half shutting down your passing and assisting. You lose by playing it cautiously and conservatively the way the Mavericks did.

Essentially, the Mavericks fell into the trap that the Nuggets had set: they compromised the quality of their offense (and that quality was the only way they were going to win this series) by cutting down on passing and assisting because they were afraid of turnovers. They thought wrong and were virtually blown out of the series.

Later on, the Lakers faced the same question, and they chose correctly, presumably due to Phil Jackson.

As just described in detail, reason ten partly played out but partly did not play out. It did not play out enough to constitute a substantial reason why the Nuggets might have lost in the playoffs.

The review of the sixteen reasons the Nuggets were going to lose continues in part three.

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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
The above are a few hightlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.

Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

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