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Friday, May 14, 2010

Does Mike Brown Know What he is Doing, Part 2: Would Someone Either Fire Mike Brown or Teach him how to Organize an Offense?

Following their four games to two defeat to the Boston Celtics in the 2010 playoffs, the Cleveland Cavaliers should fire their coach Mike Brown, who will then undoubtedly be given a second chance at Minnesota or Sacramento or some team like that. Why? Because very simply, his coaching was horrendous in this series and, just as or more importantly, if the Cavaliers don’t fire this coach, LeBron James will most likely go to another team in the off season, whereas if they do fire Brown and they get a new coach James likes, James might decide to stay.

If LeBron James leaves, the Cavaliers will be lucky just to make the playoffs at all.

Here in Part two of why Coach Brown needs to go (or completely change how he coaches) we look at how badly and unprofessionally the Cleveland offense performed. Specifically, we look at how it was badly organized and how that led to bad playoff results.

LeBron James may have been bad in this series (relatively speaking of course) but the Cavaliers were not going to win this series or the 2010 NBA Championship with the shoddy coaching they had in this series regardless of what LeBron might do. Although he would never admit it in public, and although it might just be an unconscious thing, I’ll bet you that LeBron James realized in some way shape or form during game five (and probably a little earlier than that) that the Cavaliers were doomed because of poor offense and because of wrong playing time allocations. In a future report we will report on all the playing time errors but here we’ll concentrate on the offensive disaster.

We now know the answer to the most important Cavaliers’ question: were the Cavaliers too reliant on LeBron James the last few years in the regular season and in the playoffs? The answer is without any doubt now yes. The Cavaliers backed themselves into a corner by over relying on James for too many things too much of the time. All the Boston Celtics had to do in this series was to keep Cleveland backed into that corner the Cavaliers had put themselves in. When everything including the coaching is less intense in the regular season, the Cavaliers can and have gotten away with LeBron mania, but it has been a flop to one extent or another year after year in the playoffs.

Every year in the playoffs, the Cavaliers can only go so far with LeBron James playing, roughly speaking, three positions at once. The Cavaliers have been doomed as soon as they run into a high quality Coach armed with a healthy, top of the line roster. So why don’t we see who those high quality coaches were that sunk the Cavaliers each year:

2010 Doc Rivers sinks the Cavaliers in the playoffs in round two.
2009 Stan Van Gundy sinks the Cavaliers in the playoffs in round three.
2008 Doc Rivers sinks the Cavaliers in the playoffs in round two.
2007 Greg Popovich sinks the Cavaliers in the playoffs in round four, the Championship
2006 Flip Saunders sinks the Cavaliers in the playoffs in round two.

Yes, I know obviously there were also players on the opposing team who sunk the Cavaliers, but I intentionally left them out so that you can see that Coach Mike Brown and LeBron and the Cavaliers have been alright every year until they finally run into a Coach who is following the correct ways for playoff success and who has the players who can execute the correct ways. All four of those coaches understand and agree to the concepts of organizing around positions and to the need to at all costs avoid disorganization and bad organization on offense. And they also agree to one extent or another with the power point guard concept, depending of course in any given year on exactly how good the point guard they have is.

This year Doc Rivers can go all the way with the power point guard concept because Rajon Rondo is playing as one of the best point guards of all time these days. Doc Rivers knows a very good thing when he sees it and he knows you have to play a very good thing for all its worth if you want to win the Quest.

The biggest way the Cavaliers’ over relied on LeBron James was in playmaking. While you can get away in the regular season with one guy making both a huge number of shots and a large number of assists game after game after game, in the playoffs that is far more difficult to do even for the historically great LeBron James. He is not a magician. It’s much more difficult to score in the paint in the playoffs. And teams trap, double, harass, and confound players in the playoffs that they know have too many responsibilities. To the other team, any player with too many responsibilities is like blood in the water to sharks.

All historically great players need at least one more bona fide superstar playing with them, with that other superstar responsible for at least one extremely important thing (such as rebounding or assisting) or else winning the Quest isn’t going to happen.

THE RAJON RONDO CLINIC
In this Boston Celtics-Cleveland Cavaliers series, the contrast between the offenses could not have been more striking and obvious. While the Celtics were running an absolute clinic on how to operate a high quality offense with a power point guard who is now clearly one of the very best point guards of all time, Rajon Rondo, the Cavaliers were floundering in uncertainty, confusion, and the lack of a go to playmaker that everyone knew was the go to playmaker.

Although it is true that neither Mo Williams nor hardly any other point guard is as good as Rajon Rondo these days, the Cavaliers made this disadvantage far worse than it had to be because Mo Williams was not fully assigned the position of point guard on their team, because LeBron James took care of it too often. Mo Williams himself was left confused about how he should break down his efforts between passing and assisting on the one hand and scoring on the other hand. All too often in this series, Mo Williams (or LeBron James for that matter) would pass to a teammate not expecting the pass who would turn it over. The teammate was surprised because he thought Mo Williams or LeBron James were going to score or pass to someone else on the play. They were more thinking offensive rebound than looking for a pass. Worse still, there were turnovers between and due to miscommunication between Williams and James themselves. By game six the Cavaliers had become the keystone cops of basketball. To say there was little chemistry on the Cavaliers would be an understatement. There was anti-chemistry or reverse chemistry.

Check this, assists made by guards and by anyone who makes 3 or more assists per 36 minutes. Only uninjured players who were “in the mix” for this series are included:

CAVALIERS’ ASSISTS PER 36 MINUTES
LeBron James, small forward 7.9
Mo Williams, point guard 5.6
Delonte West, shooting guard 4.7
Anthony Parker, shooting guard 2.5
Daniel Gibson, point guard 2.4

CELTICS ASSISTS PER 36 MINUTES
Rajon Rondo, point guard 9.6
Nate Robinson, point guard 4.8
Paul Pierce, small forward 3.3
Kevin Garnett, power forward 3.2
Tony Allen, shooting guard 2.9
Michael Finley shooting guard-forward 2.8
Ray Allen, shooting guard 2.7

The problem for Cleveland is that they are not following the best way to organize a team to win playoff games and they did not keep their offense slightly organized. In football, offenses are far more organized and planned than basketball offenses are. But that doesn’t give basketball coaches the right to run disorganized or unorganized offenses, as for example George Karl does, or badly organized offenses, as for example Mike Brown does. We say that the basketball team that wants to win NBA playoff games has to be “slightly organized”. Slightly organized is far, far better in the playoffs than disorganized, unorganized, or badly organized.

Yes, it is possible to be too organized in basketball, but that problem is relatively unusual compared to not being organized enough. If left uncoached players will be unorganized or disorganized whereas players will rarely become "too organized".

"Slightly organized" starts with following the position protocol. There are five positions and if you want to win in the playoffs you have to start organizing your offense by understanding and respecting the positions and what they can and can not do in the offense. The two most important positions for winning NBA playoff games are point guard and center. However, teams with power forward superstars can win with centers who are merely outstanding and not superstars, so technically the two most important positions are point guard and either center or power forward, whichever is better on the team.

In the back court, although you don’t have to worship the point guard position you have to at least respect it and to at least make sure your point guard is responsible for making assists, for keeping the overall assist total up, and for keeping the passing game from dying out completely when times get tough in the playoffs and players start to think shoot first and pass later (in which case they start missing more shots compared with if the passing game is up and running.)

IT'S NOT A GOOD THING IF A SMALL FORWARD IS THE BEST PLAYER
Teams whose best player is a small forward, such as Denver and Cleveland, have a much more difficult time winning the Quest for the Ring simply because the small forward is not as important in basketball as the center (and / or the power forward) and the point guard. If as with Cleveland a small forward (LeBron James) takes over the point guard role to some extent, that leads to disorganization or bad organization, because now you often have effectively two point guards on the court at the same time, which hurts the chances of winning playoff games (and some regular season games against the best coached and the best teams putting out big efforts).

You want one strong starting point guard who is responsible for keeping the offense slightly organized, for getting as many assists as possible, and for preventing the passing game from fizzling out. You also need a quality backup for that starting point guard. Meanwhile, the small forward needs to help the other front court players with rebounding and paint defending on defense and with scoring in the paint on offense.

LeBron James and Mo Williams were both effectively point guards in this series against the Celtics and they were out on the court at the same time for most of the games and this subjected the Cavaliers to confusion and a bad organization. This led to way too few assists and/or to way too many turnovers in many of the games.

The Nuggets made this mistake when Allen Iverson was on the team. Iverson, whose point guard instincts could never be stamped out despite being assigned the shooting guard role for years and years due to a major coaching error by Larry Brown, would be usually playing both guard positions at once because that is what he had morphed into due to bad coaching. Meanwhile, the official point guard, Anthony Carter, would also of course be playing the point. So you often had two point guards out there at the same time and the other players were confused to one extent or another by that set-up. Two point guards generate a little confusion and a little confusion is all it takes to lose playoff games.

Meanwhile the Celtics, basketball royalty whose managers and coaches probably understand and agree with just about everything we recommend here at Quest, including which positions are the most important, all of a sudden have a point guard better than even they thought they had. The Celtics have Rajon Rondo, now one of the best point guards of all time.

Since you will seldom if ever see the difference between a slightly organized and a badly organized team so starkly, let’s check the assists and the turnovers:

ASSISTS AND TURNOVERS IN THE CAVALIERS—CELTICS SERIES
Game One: Cavaliers 101, Celtics 93
Cavaliers 18 assists, 10 turnovers
Celtics 20 assists, 16 turnovers

Game Two: Celtics 104 Cavaliers 86
Cavaliers 17 assists, 15 turnovers
Celtics 30 assists, 18 turnovers

Game Three: Cavaliers 124 Celtics 95
Cavaliers 25 assists, 12 turnovers
Celtics 20 assists, 7 turnovers

Game Four: Celtics 97 Cavaliers 87
Cavaliers 19 assists, 17 turnovers
Celtics 19 assists, 12 turnovers

Game Five: Celtics 120 Cavaliers 88
Cavaliers: 20 assists, 17 turnovers
Celtics 25 assists, 10 turnovers

Game Six: Celtics 94 Cavaliers 85
Cavaliers: 17 assists, 22 turnovers
Celtics 24 assists, 13 turnovers

TOTALS for the six games:
Cavaliers: 116 assists, 93 turnovers
Celtics 138 assists, 76 turnovers

AVERAGES for the six games:
Cavaliers 19.3 assists, 15.5 turnovers
Celtics 23.0 assists, 12.7 turnovers

ASSISTS PER GAME STANDARDS
Gold Standard: 23.7
Average Standard 21.1
Horrible Standard 18.7

TURNOVERS PER GAME STANDARDS
Gold Standard: 11.5
Average Standard 13.8
Horrible Standard 15.0

THE BEST AND THE WORST QUALITY OF OFFENSE IN ONE SERIES
Remember, seemingly small differences in the most important basketball performance measures mean the difference between winning and losing. Actually, the difference between the Cavaliers and the Celtics on assists and turnovers is not very small in this case: it’s huge relatively speaking. You will very, very seldom see such a big difference between two pro basketball teams in a series on assists and turnovers.

In fact, Cleveland doesn’t look a professional basketball team here. It’s actually an understatement to say that Cleveland’s offense was badly organized. It was horribly organized, which is about the only way you can average more than 15 turnovers per game. Your team needs a new coach if you ever average more than 15 turnovers per game in a playoff series.

Even George Karl’s mostly unorganized teams are not this badly organized! Unorganized is better than badly organized, laugh out loud.

With respect to assists, Cleveland was between bad and horrible. All in all, Cleveland’s offense was a total disaster and Boston did everyone a favor by eliminating this very badly coached team from the playoffs before they could stink up any more televised games.

Look at Rondo and those Celtics though; they were exactly half way between the gold and the silver standard on assisting. On turnovers, the Celtics were also between the gold and the silver standard, closer to the silver. All in all, the Celtics’ offense was almost perfectly organized and executed well using all the advantages that organization gave them, all of which doomed Cleveland with their very badly organized offense.

In game six, the Cavaliers’ offense disintegrated to the point where they made more turnovers than assists, something which is very rare and which is smoking gun evidence that Cleveland’s offense was not even close to being organized for playoff success.

WHAT THE CAVALIERS SHOULD HAVE DONE OFFENSIVELY
They should have told LeBron James a long time ago to let the point guard worry about the assisting and the passing game. They should have told him he’s making too many assists and too many passes because his position is not designed for being the team assist leader. They should have told him to make sure he wins the League scoring Championship, which was instead won by Kevin Durant of the Oklahoma Thunder. LeBron James should have and could have easily beaten Durant in the race for top scorer. LeBron James scored a little fewer than 30 points a game in 2009-10. He should have been scoring 32-34 points a game for this team which lacks a truly great scoring forward or center and which is confused as to whom to play at the 2-guard position and confused about other player rotations.

Michael Jordan scored more than 30 points a game in four of the six years he won the Quest with Chicago. The peak was in 1993, when Michael Jordan scored 32.6 points a game in one of his Championship years. Also, for his entire career Jordan averaged 30.1 points per game, but in playoff games he averaged 33.4 points per game. The dominant, historically great scorers generally become even greater scorers in the playoffs, whereas in this series LeBron James could not possibly do this because the Cavaliers were not organized enough in general, and specifically because they were refusing to clearly designate a true point guard and to tell LeBron to back off the assisting and passing enough to get his scoring up into the stratosphere where it would have to be if the Cavaliers wanted to win the Ring.

To put it a little differently but simply: LeBron James has much better things to be doing than sharing point guard duties. The Cavaliers either learn this from this series or they are never going to win a Championship doing what they are doing, just as Denver will never win a Championship doing what they do.

The difference between LeBron’s points per game and Jordan’s points per game in the majority of Jordan’s Championship years, and also the difference between Michael Jordan’s regular season scoring and his playoff scoring might seem small to you, but they mean the difference between an offense which is organized correctly to maximize scoring of the best scorer (and everyone else) and one which is not organized correctly. If your offense is organized correctly you can win playoff games but if it is not organized correctly you will not be winning many playoff games even if you have the best player in the League on your team.

All teams that want to win the Quest need to do everything possible to get a point guard who can get as close to 10 assists per game as possible. 7 assists per game is the recommended minimum for the starting point guard of a Championship team that wants to win more with offense than with defense. Mo Williams was on the road to 7 assists per game, with 6.3 a game for Milwaukee in 2007-08. But when he went to the Cavaliers the next year, his assisting went to hell for the reasons we have discussed. So were the Cavaliers to get serious about reforming their badly organized offense, it is possible that Mo Williams could straighten out and be a true point guard and get very close to or exceed 7 assists per game.

Are there other options currently on the roster? Daniel Gibson is young but shows no signs that he could ever be a power point guard, so scratch him. Sebastian Telfair is possibly good enough, but again, only if the Cavaliers really get serious about respecting the point guard position and about organizing it correctly.

HOW THE LAKERS GET AWAY WITH VIOLATING THE ONE POINT GUARD RULE
The Lakers’ Kobe Bryant at 2-guard (shooting guard) shares point guard production with the designated point guard Derek Fisher. First of all, it is much better to have a superstar 2-guard encroaching on the point guard than a superstar “three” (a small forward). For one thing, the court spacing works out much better. For another thing, the 2-guard or shooting guard is the weakest position in basketball on average, and if you are going to share point guard because you have a superstar at 2-guard, at least you won’t be losing much on the 2-guard front because there isn’t a lot to lose. And you won’t be losing much of anything if you have a player at 2-guard who knows when he has the hot scoring hand and when he does not and he adjusts accordingly.

By contrast LeBron James may be too young to tell whether he has the hot shooting hand or not in a given first half. Or he may not be the relatively streaky type of shooter that Kobe Bryant is, in which case it is irrelevant what night it is and LeBron James should NEVER take over point guard duties. When LeBron James makes a lot of assists he doesn’t score and he doesn’t rebound as much and since his position is “three” or small forward rather than shooting guard this hurts the Cavaliers because for one thing, every team wants their small forward to do as much as possible in scoring, rebounding, and getting to the free throw line.

The Lakers have and do everything needed to be the successful exception to the one point guard rule. They have an historical superstar two guard in Kobe Bryant and they have two very smart starting guards (Bryant and Fisher) who understand exactly what the situation is and who understand that both of them are responsible for assisting and for keeping the passing game going. They communicate, they understand one another, and they have good “chemistry” in the backcourt. Derek Fisher technically has ultimate responsibility for assisting and passing for the Lakers whereas Mo Williams did not for Cleveland because LeBron was ultimately responsible, let’s be realistic about that Cavaliers’ coaching error.

Kobe knows whether or not he has the hot shooting touch in a game no later than half time. In the games when Kobe does have the hot shooting touch, in the second half Derek Fisher will revert to being much more of a true point. When Kobe does not have the hot shooting touch he partly and occasionally mostly takes over the point from Fisher for the whole game long, in which case Fisher’s role is to be sort of a “decoy point guard,” which sounds useless but actually works for the Lakers because Fisher is often left unguarded out beyond the 3-point line and he loves to make threes when he is lightly guarded or unguarded. And Coach Phil Jackson knows that making a few threes, at least six of them and preferably eight of them, is crucial for winning playoff games when the paint is in lock down mode.

Both Bryant and Fisher started their careers with the Lakers in 1996-97. Bryant has been playing for the Lakers every single year since then, whereas Fisher has been a Laker for every year except for the three years 2004-07 when he played for the Warriors and the Jazz. In his first three years Derek Fisher showed he could be a true point guard, but he morphed into combo guard starting in his fourth year, 1999-2000 when, you guessed it, Kobe Bryant started to make many more assists than he did in his first three years.

And was it a coincidence that 1999-2000 was also Phil Jackson’s first year coaching the Lakers? Almost certainly not: Phil Jackson is known to have been worried at the time that Kobe Bryant would become the ultimate ball hog, so he himself probably persuaded Kobe to make more assists, and persuaded Derek Fisher to become less of a point guard and more of a shooting guard so that the Lakers could avoid the poison of in effect having two point guards on the floor at the same time.

You see, when you are a great coach, you both know the rules and you know when and how to break them. Whereas Mike Brown still has to learn what the rules are.

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--How and why George Karl's obsession with personalities is wrong and bad for any team
--How and why George Karl and the Nuggets can not win in the playoffs (2007, 2008) or a West final (2009). If Quest commits a foul, we own up to it, as we do right here: we thought the Nuggets could not win in the playoffs in 2009. They did win 10 games before being eliminated by the Lakers in the West final, so in response we corrected our evaluation of what you can do with the Nuggets' unique 2009 approach to basketball without, however, going overboard.
--How and why George Karl cheats the fans and the franchise out of performance and development of "reserve" players
--How and why playmaking is so important, probably more than you think, and how you manage playmakers correctly.
--How and why you have probably been fooled regarding the Nuggets' 2008 off-season and their 2008-09 defense

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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
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