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Friday, April 22, 2011

Drowning in a River of Tears, The Denver Nuggets as of Spring 2011, Part One

Marcus Camby was traded away for nothing during and mostly because of the economic panic and he is long gone. Allen Iverson is long gone; he doesn't even play in the country anymore, but instead he plays in Turkey. Carmelo Anthony is recently gone. Chauncey Billups went with him despite being a Colorado legend and despite the fact he hated to leave. The best Nuggets of the last five-seven years have been slipping away one by one, in most cases long before their best playing days are over. The Nuggets have completely failed to hold on to their superstars.

Now among current Nuggets Raymond Felton, the young and outstanding true superstar point guard who was one of the players the Nuggets got from the Knicks for Carmelo, has warned repeatedly that he will likely want out of Denver if he can’t start at point guard for the Nuggets. And as you will find out in this Part, he most likely will NOT be able to start for the Nuggets. Kenyon Martin, who knows a playoff wipe-out when he sees one, and so he ripped into George Karl the other day for not ordering Kevin Durant to be doubled in the first two games of the 2011 first round series in Oklahoma versus the Thunder, is obviously not at all happy. And then there is J.R. Smith, who has the ultimate mother lode of reasons to be dissatisfied with Nuggets coaching, adding to this mix his warning that he will probably want out of Denver this summer.

Neither Kenyon Martin nor J.R. Smith is under contract for 2011-12. Felton is under contract for next year but he most likely is going to push to get out of Denver as soon as possible regardless. So when those three complain about George Karl’s and the Nuggets’ playoff collapse and/or about not getting earned playing time and/or about not starting, it could very easily lead to either one, two, or all three of them demanding out of Denver in the off-season coming up.

Are the Nuggets going to be able to get good replacements for Kenyon Martin, J.R. Smith, and/or Ray Felton? Most likely not, especially when you remember that the blue chip managers that the Nuggets had who from about 2005 through 2009 built a very high quality roster WERE FIRED during the 2010 off season.

Although we have to wait and see whether Raymond Felton, Kenyon Martin and/or J.R. Smith do in fact get out of Denver, the bottom line at the moment is that Denver is to one extent or another coming apart at the seams. If you thought the unraveling was going to be limited to just the five players swept away in the Carmelo trade you were wrong to one extent or another.

A massive trade, especially one forced by a superstar who wants out, is sort of like an earthquake; there are aftershocks that can easily lead to more dislocations. After a massive trade it can in some cases be years before a team settles down and is all on the same page and acting as a completely unified and tight organization. In the “aftershock years” the team will often not be completely unified and when it is not that team will generally be easily beaten in the playoffs. Being unified and tight is one of the preconditions needed to reliably win in the playoffs.

George Karl’s failure to earn the trust and loyalty of Carmelo Anthony (and of course his inability to coach well in the playoffs) is the root cause of the earthquake. The details about that are found in Reports already produced and there is supposed to be another Report on the subject within a few months.

You know that cheap pair of pants made in Malaysia or some other $1 an hour country you bought at Wal-Mart that started unraveling at the seams not long after you bought it? That’s the Denver Nuggets as of right now; the Nuggets are coming apart at the seams. And you better not wear those just about to completely rip apart pants in public, laugh out loud.

Wait a minute, all of this unraveling is getting a little too extensive to keep track of without assistance, so let’s look at it player by player:

RECENTLY DEPARTED NUGGETS
CARMELO ANTHONY
He’s already gone of course. This superstar was dissatisfied with Nuggets’ coaching and real playoff prospects. (Thanks, Carmelo, and I do mean it very sincerely, for believing what Quest for the Ring (QFTR) teaches. QFTR has already started to and will continue to help the Knicks every way we can to get the Knicks in the best position to win The Quest for the Ring.

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CHAUNCEY BILLUPS
This aging superstar point guard nearing retirement is already gone. Billups wanted to remain in Denver because he is from Colorado and likes it there, and he had no major problem with Karl as Karl liked him, but Billups was swept away in the Carmelo trade like debris in a storm.

RENALDO BALKMAN
This oversized small forward or undersized power forward is already gone. Unless brain dead, Balkman was dissatisfied with Nuggets’ coaching because in BOTH 2009-10 and 2010-11 he was not allowed to play except in garbage time despite all kinds of evidence from 2008-09 and prior that he is at least a very good / solid starter, well above average type of NBA forward.

ANTHONY CARTER
He is an already gone older, retiring soon point guard who was swept away in the Carmelo trade.

SHELDEN WILLIAMS
He is an already gone power forward who was a slightly below average power forward in his last playing time with the Nuggets; he was swept away in the Carmelo trade.

OUTSTANDING NUGGETS PLAYERS NOT YET GONE BUT THREATENING TO LEAVE
KENYON MARTIN
He is a power forward who had one of his best years ever in 2010-11 with a .926 Real Player Rating which is in the superstar range. At the moment Martin is disgusted with George Karl’s inability to come up with a way to contain Kevin Durant for even one single game. This isn't the first time Martin has gotten ticked off about Karl in the playoffs, by the way. There was a major argument between the two about six years ago that led to Martin being benched the details of which are outside the subject of this Report.

Martin is not under contract for 2011-12 (so he is a free agent I presume) and so obviously he may be leaving the Nuggets during the 2011 off season to finish his career elsewhere. He’s 33 years old and given that and how well he played he could easily have between two and four more productive years elsewhere.

RAYMOND FELTON
He is a high quality point guard who understands, respects, and produces on the court the all important point guard concept needed for one thing to win you playoff games. Felton came over from the Knicks in the Carmelo Anthony trade. As mentioned at the start, Felton has repeatedly warned that he will be attempting to get out of Denver as soon as possible if he can’t start at point guard. QFTR has repeatedly stated that Felton is completely correct in his assessment that he should start in Denver and that he is completely correct in his proposed solution. We do so yet again here.

But George Karl prefers to start Ty Lawson over Raymond Felton. Lawson is a quality point guard also and QFTR has stated so extensively. But QFTR just produced the Nuggets’ 2010-11 Real Player Ratings and they show that Felton was a much better player than Lawson was for the Nuggets in 2010-11. Felton played for the Nuggets only in the last third of the season so Lawson produced more because he was a Nugget all season long. But the ratings just calculated (and to be published here no later than in late June or very early July) show that Felton played at a level right at the borderline between superstar and historic superstar since arriving from New York:

Raymond Felton: 1.004: borderline between superstar and historic superstar
Ty Lawson: .851: star

The gap between Felton and Lawson turned out to be much, much greater than I thought it was going to be. Again, Lawson is a very good young point guard with a very, very promising future. His ratings will likely get higher in future years. But Felton is clearly the better of the two right now and clearly is somewhat more true to the all-important point guard concept than Lawson is right now. If your point guard doesn’t want to make as many plays as possible who is going to want to, the man on the moon? The bottom line is that Felton should start for the Nuggets over Lawson and it should be Lawson plotting to leave the Nuggets and not Felton. To be absolutely clear: if the Nuggets lose Felton and keep Lawson they will be worse off than if they lose Lawson and keep Felton. And this is true even though both of them are quality point guards.

Moreover, no point guard playing at Felton’s level should ever be just a back-up point guard. So Felton needs to follow in Carmelo Anthony’s and probably J.R. Smith’s footsteps and get out of Denver as soon as possible. There are many teams who are starting point guards much below Felton’s level, including for example the Miami Heat.

Furthermore, the real situation is most likely even worse than Felton thinks it is. George Karl is an institution in Denver and is basically worshipped by the ownership and by much of the press, specifically including the Denver Post. More broadly, Karl is often worshipped to one extent or another by national television broadcasters and journalists. Karl’s coaching contract has recently been renewed so he is going to remain in his role of winning a few extra regular season games and then mostly imploding in the playoffs for the next three years (through 2014) at a minimum. And yes, QFTR will continue to point out along every step of the way every mistake he makes in the regular season and especially in the playoffs.

So George Karl isn’t going anywhere regardless of how soundly the Thunder thrash the Nuggets in round one 2011. He was never going anywhere regardless of how badly he did in the playoffs. George Karl getting thrashed in the playoffs is par for the course in Denver and I know it may seem hard to believe but playoff implosions are accepted by ownership and even among some of the fan base since in their way of thinking Karl offsets this by producing very good to excellent regular season results year after year. I myself think that trade-off is goofy; what you want is a coach who wins a few extra regular season games AND can win in the playoffs. They do exist, you know.

But the Nuggets are owned by one of the richest pro sports team owners of them all. Men such as him always want even more money. And maybe his accountants have calculated that more money can be made by ensuring a really good regular season (with Karl) and then letting whatever little disaster happens in the playoffs happen. After all, the potential ticket and merchandise sales for regular season games must be much greater than the total potential ticket and merchandise sales for even a long playoff run. When money trumps sports, winning as the number one objective may fairly quickly be tossed out the window. So therefore, perhaps his accountants have informed the owner of the Nuggets that even if Karl can't coach well in the playoffs it is nevertheless a good idea to have him as coach from a financial perspective since Karl year after year produces a fairly smoothly run team that wins a few extra games in the long and profitable regular season.

The thing point guard Raymond Felton may not yet realize is that Karl does not rely only on basketball performance to decide who starts and to decide playing times. He rates personalities of players and if, for example, he decides that he likes Ty Lawson’s personality more than Raymond Felton’s personality there is nothing that Felton is going to be able to do about that because no one can change their personality to any significant extent. Karl grossly overestimates the magnitude of and how direct the connection is between personalities and basketball results. He thinks that “stronger personalities” (whatever they are) produce better results on the basketball court.

Know this and remember it: there is no evidence to back up this belief. Championships and playoff wins in general do NOT depend in any way on how “tough” or “good” the personalities of the players are. QFTR strongly teaches to ignore personalities and to look at actual performance on the basketball court when making playing time and starting decisions.

But what Karl thinks goes in Denver. Therefore, any player on the short end of the stick in the George Karl personality sweepstakes should attempt to get out of Denver as soon as possible.

To be absolutely clear: based on Karl’s extensive track record regarding decisions of this nature (and based on QFTR knowledge of how Karl thinks) Lawson will indefinitely and probably always start over Felton; Karl will most likely NEVER change his mind regardless of how much better Felton actually is than Lawson. Between that and just how great Felton actually was in 2010-11, Felton is even more correct than he thinks he is when he believes that getting out of Denver is a very good course of action for him to take. Either Felton gets out of Denver or his career will suffer, possibly as much as that of J.R. Smith.

J.R. SMITH
The J.R. Smith story is so interesting and so important that QFTR is making it part 2 of this “Nuggets Drowning in a River of Tears” Series. Part Two will be posted either one or two days after this part (Part One). And there will likely be a Part Three as well within a week or so. Part Three will explain exactly why and how the Thunder dismantled the Nuggets in the 2011 first round.

You get the idea? This river of tears is one heck of a long and twisting river.

WHY THIS SONG AND WHY THIS REPORT SERIES?
The Nuggets’ story in recent years is a very, very sad story indeed. Words can hardly convey how sad the story is. I honestly feel like I am drowning in a river of tears just from telling it and this isn’t the first time. To cover every last sad thing would take a book. I know that great players have been made frustrated and sad and that is the ultimate failure of any organization, or any country for that matter-that great people in it are frustrated and sad.

But it could have been even worse. For one thing, at least it seems that J.R. Smith has not been completely ruined. And you never know, sadness sometimes leads to anger and anger sometimes, finally leads to actions that finally make things better.

But as the song asks, “How long must this go on?” Well, I’ll tell you one thing, QFTR will be there for as long as it lasts and then beyond as long as it lasts. And we will never quit telling you what really is going on in basketball and we will never quit telling you about exactly how Championships are won and lost.

But right now, as we watch the Nuggets implode in the playoffs and we think about all of the Nuggets who have already left and as we watch in the Denver Post and so forth the procession of players expressing frustration and warning about leaving, let’s check out the new Denver Nuggets theme song. This new theme song replaces “Like a Rolling Stone” by Bob Dylan. The Nuggets are transitioning from a rolling stone type of team to a river of tears type of team.

First we’ll see the lyrics of the new Nuggets theme song and then we’ll hear the song.

For an interesting and appropriate experience, reread or at least skim over this Report while the song is playing; seldom does a song fit so tightly to a story. The Nuggets are nothing if not a sad story. I know personally they have made me very, very sad over the years; they have indeed produced a river of tears along with a river of basketball opportunities squandered. Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson, Marcus Camby all gone, just to name a few. When the best players seldom if ever retire on a team they have played their best for, something is seriously wrong with the management of the franchise.

RIVER OF TEARS LYRICS
Singer: Eric Clapton

It's three miles to the river
That would carry me away,
And two miles to the dusty street
That I saw you on today.

It's four miles to my lonely room
Where I will hide my face,
And about half a mile to the downtown bar
That I ran from in disgrace.

Lord, how long have I got to keep on running,
Seven hours, seven days or seven years?
All I know is, since you've been gone
I feel like I'm drowning in a river,

Drowning in a river of tears.
Drowning in a river.
Feel like I'm drowning,
Drowning in a river.

In three more days, I'll leave this town
And disappear without a trace.
A year from now, maybe settle down
Where no one knows my face.

I wish that I could hold you
One more time to ease the pain,
But my time's run out and I got to go,
Got to run away again.

Still I catch myself thinking,
One day I'll find my way back here.
You'll save me from drowning,
Drowning in a river,
Drowning in a river of tears.
Drowning in a river.
Feels like I'm drowning,
Drowning in the river.
Lord, how long must this go on?

Drowning in a river,
Drowning in a river of tears.

DENVER NUGGETS THEME SONG
ERIC CLAPTON: DROWINING IN A RIVER OF TEARS
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NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
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Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.

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